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Subject: Radio Frequencies IDs (RFID)
Category: Computers > Wireless and Mobile
Asked by: bbbking-ga
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Posted: 26 Apr 2004 16:24 PDT
Expires: 26 May 2004 16:24 PDT
Question ID: 336661
Do radio frequencies travel through water.  The new RFIDs if put under
water will they still transmit signals and for what length of
distance.  I have inventory that is stored in water that can range as
deep as 50 feet.  Would the RFIDs work through the water and for what
distance?
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Subject: Re: Radio Frequencies IDs (RFID)
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 26 Apr 2004 19:40 PDT
 
bbbking...

The following description from the 4P-Mobile Data Processing
site confirms that RFID can be used underwater:

"RFID enables contactless data communication between a tagged
 object or a smart card/label and a host device. Data and
 energy to power the tag are transferred through radio waves
 at a specific frequency. No line of sight or orientation is
 required between the tag/card and the reader. Cards and tags
 can be read at high speed through walls and concrete,
 underwater and at extreme temperatures. They are reusable
 and rewritable also with highly secure encryption."
http://www.4p-mobile-dp.com/en/products/rfid/index_rfid.html

An article on the Modern Materials Handling website also
confirms this, but the full text is available only to 
subscribers:

"RFID goes underwater for first time
 By Staff
 Modern Materials Handling
 April 1, 1999
 
 Abstract: To enhance process efficiencies and reduce
 contamination concerns, Escort Memory Systems has
 introduced the first submersible radio frequency
 identification (RFID) passive reader/writer."
http://www.manufacturing.net/mmh/article/CA121388

Note that the article was written in 1999, so there
have no doubt been major developments in this area
since then.


The RFID Journal website offers a wealth of information
on its FAQs page, and says this about range:

"The read range of passive tags depends on many factors:
 the frequency of operation, the power of the reader,
 interference from metal objects or other RF devices.
 In general, low-frequency tags are read from a foot
 or less. High frequency tags are read from about three
 feet and UHF tags are read from 10 to 20 feet. Where
 longer ranges are needed, such as for tracking railway
 cars, active tags use batteries to boost read ranges
 to 300 feet or more."
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/207#anchor#019


You will need to initiate contact with various vendors
in order to determine their ability to accommodate your
specific needs, but I have no doubt that a solution can
be found. The RFID Journal site notes this:

"There are many different RFID vendors with different
 areas of expertise. We have compiled a director of
 vendors around the world. Click on Find a Vendor in
 the left-hand navigation bar to locate the type of
 vendor you are looking for."
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/207#anchor#021

"You can use our Vendor Search Engine to search by type
 of company, technology, application, or product or service."
Their search options start on this page:
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/findvendor


One of the vendors on their list seems to have the
technology you might require:

"Quelis ID Systems
 This Quebec-based company offers RFID products for
 harsh environments, such as the ocean floor, military
 battlefields, construction sites and the open road.
 Quelis? RFID transponders can be encapsulated in
 epoxy, polycarbonate, clear PET or FDA-approved
 rubber materials with diameters from 5/8 inch to
 2 inches. The company?s tags are used on high-pressure
 gas cylinders, military ordnance, heavy tools,
 underwater marine equipment and other high-stress
 applications."
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/findvendor?region=United+States&function=RFID+transponder+(special+form+factors)


Another company that specializes in underwater technology:

"Sonardyne International is based in Yateley, England. The
 company has offices in Aberdeen, Houston, Singapore, Brazil
 and Norway. The company is recognised as a world leader in
 the design and manufacture of advanced acoustic instruments
 and systems for accurate survey, positioning and tracking
 in shallow and full ocean depth operations within the
 offshore oil and gas industries."
They have a page on their RFID system for cable tracking here:
http://www.sonardyne.co.uk/products/rfid.htm


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Additional information can be gleaned from further exploration
of the links provided above, as well as those resulting from the
Google search, outlined below.

Searches done, via Google:

RFID underwater
://www.google.com/search?q=RFID+underwater
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