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Subject: Transfer/Copy folders and files from CD-RW to C drive
Category: Computers > Software
Asked by: ignorant2004-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 27 Apr 2004 18:43 PDT
Expires: 27 May 2004 18:43 PDT
Question ID: 337344
How do you transfer ?Read Only? folders and files on a CD-RW to the
computer (a desktop w/ WINS XP), and with the same folders' dates and
times remain the same as they were first copied/recorded onto the
CD-RW from another computer (a laptop w/ WINS 2000)? If so, how does
the OS make any difference? If so, how does transfer method, i.e.
copy, cut, or move, make any difference? It's very annoying, to say
the least, when all the files and folders were transferred from CD-RW
to my XP, all the dates and times for the folders show the current
(modified) dates and times, rather than what they were originally on
the CD-RW and the WINS 2000 computer. The changes, of the dates and
times for the folders, make searching for files and folders later on
the XP using dates virtually useless. I?m using Sony CDRW 650L. Please
also tell me how not to screw up the readability or opening the CD-RW
after I?m done copying the files to the desktop and thereafter the
files on the desktop are not locked in the ?Read Only? modes, and that
I can still read the ones on the CD-RW. Does how the files and folders
that were copied/transferred to the CD-RW from the laptop it make any
differences on how these files and folders that were to be
copied/transferred to the desktop?  If so, what is the proper and
safest way to transfer/copy from the laptop to a blank CD-RW and then
onto the desktop? The laptop and the desktop may also have two
different CD programs. Does a blank CD-RW need to be formatted? The
laptop seems to require it, but the desktop doesn?t. What? the best
and the most efficient way for the laptop to accept a blank CD RW
without going through an extensive period of time for formatting? Need
to know ASAP. Thanks.

One more question ? in the old days, one can print out the contents or
directories and subdirectories with all the folders and files names,
dates and times. If so, how can it be done for folders and subfolders
(which are the equivalent to directories/subdirectories) as well?

In case you wonder why I didn?t try transferring folders and files
that were on the laptop to the desktop, this is mainly because the
laptop keyboard doesn?t work and it would work when it?s hooked up to
an external keyboard, and that the laptop screen went completely dark
all of a sudden without warning, plus I?m not sure if the transfer
will work with two different versions of OS, and possibly different
programs for using the CD-RW functions.

Thanks Again. Need answers urgently-hopefully within two hours.

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 27 Apr 2004 19:53 PDT
ignorant2004...

The best way I know of to retain the date/time stamp on files
is to zip them (combine them into a compressed format with
a .zip extension. You can zip entire directories and 
subdirectories this way, prior to copying them to your CD-RW.

When you subsequently copy them back onto another harddrive
and unzip them, they will retain the folder structure and
date/time stamps they had when you zipped them. Only the
zip file will reflect the new date/time when you copied it
to your harddrive. Using a zip format will also allow you
to store more data on your CD-RW disk.

All data on a CD-RW disk is going to be read only. This simply
means you can't open a file from the disk, change it, and save
it back to the CD. Once you copy them back onto a harddrive,
they will retain their original properties, so if they were
read/write originally, they will still be so.

I wanted to put this out while we're still behind your 
deadline, so if I'm on the right track here, let me know 
what else you need for a complete answer.

sublime1-ga

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 27 Apr 2004 19:54 PDT
P.S. Operating System makes no difference.

Request for Question Clarification by livioflores-ga on 27 Apr 2004 20:39 PDT
Regarding to the printing question, let us know if this program suits your needs:
"Directory Printer v4.3"
http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptdirprn.asp

Regarding to the format of the blank CDRW, please tell us what are the
programs used in each computer.

Thank you.

Clarification of Question by ignorant2004-ga on 27 Apr 2004 23:49 PDT
To Sublime1-ga: Would how the files and folders that were
copied/transferred to the CD-RW from the laptop make any difference to
the files and folders that were to be copied/transferred to the
desktop? Note that the dates and times for ?files? seem (though not
all the times) to be retained in its original way after transferring
from the CD-RW to the XP hard drive. Please kindly tell me, step by
step (if possible & practical, illustrated w/ what the dialog box
would look like) how to zip the directories and/or subdirectories in
the laptop before copying to the CD-RW, and then unzip them once
copying to the desktop. I have gotten the new XP desktop just a short
while ago, and also never tried to zip and unzip any files and folders
before. Say, does zipping save any time? If so, how much more time? 
Still need to know if any of these make a difference: copy, move, and
cut when transferring from the CD-RW to the desktop XP? Thanks - need
to know quickly.

To livioflores-ga: I?m new to my new desktop XP. So I?m not even sure
what program it uses for CDRW. I could be wrong ? it seems like it?s
using the MS RecordNow! Version 6.5.1. If this isn?t it, please kindly
tell me how to find out what program it?s using. Thanks.   To find out
what the laptop is using, I?ll have to turn off my XP, and plug in the
monitor and an external keyboard to my laptop. If I remember
correctly, I think the laptop was using the Roxio. I?ll try to find
out. Maybe you can tell me how to look for it first ? this may save me
a little time to get the info you need. Thanks. As to the web page you
gave, I took a look. It maybe helpful. But it looks like I?ll have to
download some files first? The VB6 Source Code says ?programmers only?
? do I need it and the other two to have the ?Version 4.3? to work?
I?m not a programmer. Are these files absolutely safe to install in my
XP desktop? Are these files free or I have to pay for them? If so, how
much? Assuming the files& folders in the CDRW are still intact after I
already copied into my desktop yesterday (4/27) afternoon, will I be
able to use the programs in the V4.3 web page for the CD-RW? Do you
have some kind of CDs for the programs that you can send? Thanks.

To All: My first priorities now are to copy all the files and folders
from the laptop to the CD-RW, transfer them to the desktop, and
complete a couple important projects that need to be done before the
laptop needs to be sent out pretty soon ? that?s why I need to have
all the folders and files copied for backup in case something happens.
I'll be up all night and will check back as much and as often as I can
(not as much as I can or would like to during the day). Thanks a mil!

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 28 Apr 2004 01:29 PDT
ignorant2004...


"Would how the files and folders that were copied/transferred
 to the CD-RW from the laptop make any difference to the files
 and folders that were to be copied/transferred to the desktop?"

If by 'how', you are referring to the program or method used
for copying them to the CD - no, it won't make any difference.


"Note that the dates and times for ?files? seem (though not
 all the times) to be retained in its original way after
 transferring from the CD-RW to the XP hard drive. 

This seems to contradict what you said initially:

"It's very annoying, to say the least, when all the files
 and folders were transferred from CD-RW to my XP, all the
 dates and times for the folders show the current (modified)
 dates and times, rather than what they were originally on
 the CD-RW and the WINS 2000 computer. The changes, of the
 dates and times for the folders, make searching for files
 and folders later on the XP using dates virtually useless."

The only way I can make sense of this is if you're saying
that the files retain their correct date/time stamp, but 
the folders are updated with the current time. If this is 
the case, you can still easily search for the files by the
date/time stamp, regardless of the date on the folder.

If the file timestamps are being updated when copied, this
is the reason I suggested zipping them to retain the original
timestamps.


"Please kindly tell me, step by step (if possible & practical,
 illustrated w/ what the dialog box would look like) how to
 zip the directories and/or subdirectories in the laptop before
 copying to the CD-RW, and then unzip them once copying to the
 desktop. I have gotten the new XP desktop just a short while
 ago, and also never tried to zip and unzip any files and folders
 before. Say, does zipping save any time? If so, how much more
 time?"

As for time, it takes time to zip the files, but this is offset
by the shorter time it will take to copy the smaller amount of
data to a CD. You'll come out about even, I'd say.

As for an illustrated tutorial, Roxy Flanagan has one here:
http://autumnweb.com/Roxys/2Tutorials/4WinzipTutorial.html

WinZip can be downloaded here:
http://www.winzip.com/


"Still need to know if any of these make a difference: copy,
 move, and cut when transferring from the CD-RW to the desktop
 XP?"

A CD has fixed data which cannot be moved or cut, as both of
these involve removing the files from the CD, which can't be
done. Your only option is to copy them.


Please realize that I am providing this information without 
having (yet) posted an official answer. I do this because
it is still not exactly clear what you need to accomplish
your goals with this question, and because you have asked
multiple questions, some of which I am not addressing, in 
an effort to provide a timely response. You are on your honor
to reimburse me if you find the information useful. If you
are satisfied with the general direction and content I am
providing, you can instruct me to post a formal answer and
we can finalize any loose ends in further clarifications,
though I will be retiring for the evening very soon.

Otherwise, I can assist you in informing you how to set it
up to reimburse both myself and livioflores-ga, if you find
his input useful as well.

sublime1-ga

Request for Question Clarification by sublime1-ga on 05 May 2004 14:00 PDT
ignorant2004...

Were you able to resolve your predicament as a result of the
information you received here? It would be nice to know if
it was useful to you, and whether that information can be
entered as a formal answer, so the fee can be collected for
the work which was done.

sublime1-ga
Answer  
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Comments  
Subject: Re: Transfer/Copy folders and files from CD-RW to C drive
From: poe-ga on 28 Apr 2004 03:37 PDT
 
As an addition to the valid and helpful comments from my colleagues
above, I should recommend a command line utility called robocopy
(Robust File Copy Utility). This is available within all the different
Microsoft Resource Kits.

Currently the Windows 2000 Server Resource Kit isn't available as a
free download from Microsoft, but the Windows 2003 Server Resource Kit
is. This should still work absolutely fine under Windows 2000.

Windows 2003 Server Resource Kit
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffd&displaylang=en

Once the Resource Kit is installed, which is a very quick and painless
process, using robocopy is simply a case of running an MS-DOS Prompt
and typing robocopy with whatever flags are required. These flags give
a massive amount of extra functionality to the basic task of copy
files. There are flags to remove read only attributes and to preserve
time and date stamps, as well as many other tasks.

A list of the flags can be obtained by typing the following command,
once the Resource Kit has been downloaded and installed:

robocopy /?

For instance, to copy all files from a CD-ROM drive D: to a folder
called backup on the c: drive, keeping all time and date stamps
intact, you would type:

robocopy d:\*.* c:\backup /COPY:DT /A-:R

This would copy everything (*.*) from the CD ROM drive (d:\) to the
backup folder (c:\backup), copying data and timestamps (/COPY:DT) and
removing the read only attribute from all files (/A-:R).

I hope this helps along with the other advice given by my colleagues above.

poe-ga
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