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Subject: "Place names in the Netherlands"
Category: Reference, Education and News
Asked by: tumbleweed61-ga
List Price: $30.00
Posted: 01 May 2004 16:18 PDT
Expires: 31 May 2004 16:18 PDT
Question ID: 339560
I've been researching my family history.  I have found that two of my
aunts were born in Bargweg, Groningen Province, Netherlands.  I
believe it is the name of a road.  Is this correct?
Also, my great-grandparents lived at Onnerweg 33, Haren Municipality,
Groningen, Netherlands.  I can't find it on the map either.  Where can
I find good maps of the Netherlands?
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Subject: Re: "Place names in the Netherlands"
Answered By: scriptor-ga on 01 May 2004 17:53 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear tumbleweed61,

Here is what I found out:


-- The Bargweg in Groningen --

There seems to be only one place with a street named "Bargweg" in the
entire Groningen Province; that place is the village of
Emmer-Compascuum, part of the Emmen Municipality (Gemeente Emmen).

You can see the Bargweg by clicking this link; the street is located
in the center of the map:
http://212.11.63.67/mapsgene/JVM001/a/c461fb86ae.gif
(1)

Here, you can see the entire village of Emmer-Compascuum:
http://212.11.63.67/mapsgene/JVM001/a/c461fce97e.gif
(1)

In case the above links do not work properly, please follow this link.
Though the Bargweg is not labelled, you can find it easily: It is
located right below the word "COMPASCUUM", reaching from the "O" to
the "S":
http://www.sssvolleybal.nl/assets/images/Pltgrnd3.jpg
(4)

This small map will give you an idea of where approximately the Emmen
Municipality is located:
http://www.parcsandur.nl/plaatjes/ned_dr_kaart.jpg
(5)

In case you need it, here is contact information for the local
administration of the Emmen Municipality:

Gemeentehuis Emmen
Raadhuisplein 1
Postbus 30001
7800 Emmen
NEDERLANDE
--
Phone: +31(0)591-685555
Fax: +31(0)591-685599
E-Mail: gemeente@emmen.nl
Website: http://www.emmen.nl/



-- The Onnerweg in Haren --

Follow this link to see a map of the Haren Municipality (Gemeente
Haaren) in the Groningen Province, Netherlands. You will see the
street named "Onnerweg" approximately in the center of the map:
http://212.11.63.67/mapsgene/JVM001/a/c461d32975.gif
(1)

Here is a closer zoom of the area around the Onnerweg:
http://212.11.63.67/mapsgene/JVM001/a/c461de6e31.gif
(1)

In the unlikely case that the above links do not work properly, you
can see the Onnerweg also on this map, located in the approximate
center:
http://members.home.nl/klees/haren/haren%20eo.gif
(2)

A closer zoom of the Haren town map, with the Onnerweg located at the right edge:
http://members.home.nl/klees/haren/kaart%20haren%20hp.gif
(2)

This map shows you that Haren is located south-east of the town of Groningen:
http://members.home.nl/klees/haren/gron_haren.gif
(3)

In case you need it, here is contact information for the local
administration of the Haren Municipality:

Gemeentehuis Haren
Raadhuisplein 10
Postbus 21
9750 AA Haren 
NEDERLANDE
--
Phone: +31(0)50-5339911 
Fax: +31(0)50-5340385 
E-Mail: gemeente@haren.nl
Website: http://www.haren.nl/



Sources:

(1)
ViaMichelin Maps
http://www.viamichelin.com/

(2)
Ontdek Avatar: Kaart Haren
http://members.home.nl/klees/haren/adres_haren.htm

(3)
Ontdek Avatar: Kaart Haren (Gn)
http://members.home.nl/klees/haren/kaart%20haren%20eo.htm

(4)
Volleyballvereniging Emmer-Compascuum
http://www.sssvolleybal.nl/

(5)
Parc Sandur
http://www.parcsandur.nl/


Search terms used:
haren nl
://www.google.de/search?q=haren+nl&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche
onnerweg haren
://www.google.de/search?q=onnerweg+haren&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche
kaart haren
http://images.google.de/images?q=kaart%20haren&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&sa=N&tab=wi
haren map
http://images.google.de/images?q=haren+map&hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&newwindow=1&start=0&sa=N&filter=0
bargweg groningen
://www.google.de/search?q=bargweg+groningen&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=de&btnG=Google-Suche
"emmer compascuum"
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs=utf8&q=%22emmer+compascuum%22&_sb_lang=any&o=0


Hope this helps!
Best regards,
Scriptor

Request for Answer Clarification by tumbleweed61-ga on 01 May 2004 19:56 PDT
I have other maps of the Netherlands.  I can't seem to find
Emmer-Compascumm listed or located.  How far is it from Groningen.

Is it possible that Bargweg is a Frisian name for a town, or the name
of a town that has been changed?  My grandparents lived there at the
turn of the century.

Since the links you sent me don't acutally label the street, I'd like
to know.  Is it possible that this is a road near Fraelemagorg?

Clarification of Answer by scriptor-ga on 02 May 2004 05:39 PDT
Thank you for letting me know about your additional needs. I have made
a number of maps for you that will show you exactly both the location
of the village of Emmer-Compascuum and of the Bargweg there. On some
maps, I added a big red arrow pointing to the place of interest, so
you can locate it more easily.
(Copyright for all map images: Michelin)

On this map, you can see the location of Emmen; the distance to
Groningen is only approximately 60 kilometers (37 miles):
http://home.foni.net/~scrippor/google/emmer-7.jpg

This map shows you where the village of Emmer-Compascuum is located;
the distance to the town of Emmen is approx. 8 kilometers (5 miles):
http://home.foni.net/~scrippor/google/emmer-6.jpg

This map will provide you a general impression of Emmer-Compascuum;
please note that the yellow strip running from the top edge to the
bottom edge of the map is the Dutch-German border, so Emmer-Compascuum
is only 500 meters (550 yards) from the border:
http://home.foni.net/~scrippor/google/emmer-5.jpg

A closer zoom on Emmer-Compascuum:
http://home.foni.net/~scrippor/google/emmer-3.jpg

On this map, you can clearly see the Bargweg labelled:
http://home.foni.net/~scrippor/google/emmer-2.jpg

This is the closest zoom map of the area surrounding the Bargweg in
Emmer-Compascuum I could find:
http://home.foni.net/~scrippor/google/emmer-1.jpg


I would like to add that despite extensive research, I have found no
evidence or indication whatsoever that a village, hamlet or other
place named Bargweg had ever existed. This would also be unlikely for
the reason that "-weg" means "-way", which denotes a street, a lane,
or a path, but not a locality. Also, "Bargweg" is not Frisian, but
Dutch/Low German, which I can identify without any problems since I am
native of Northern Germany myself. "Bargweg" means just "Mound Way".

Please don't hesitate to ask for further clarification if something
remains unclear.


Regards,
Scriptor


Map source:
ViaMichelin
http://www.viamichelin.com/

Request for Answer Clarification by tumbleweed61-ga on 02 May 2004 09:00 PDT
My Aunt wrote that the meaning of the word is "Castle Way."  It is
most probable that the officials at Ellis Island spelled the word
incorrectly.  Is there a Borgweg closer to Groningen?

Clarification of Answer by scriptor-ga on 02 May 2004 09:44 PDT
The fact that the place name is meant to translate as "Castle Way"
changes everything. Indeed that name would be "Borgweg" in Dutch, so a
case of misspelling is very probable here. And there is a place named
Borgweg in the Groningen Province.
It belongs to the Hoogezand-Sappemeer Municipality. It is a former
village (very small), now part of the town of Hoogezand-Sappemeer.

You can see its location on this map (upper left quarter of the map):
http://home.hetnet.nl/~micro-magic/afbeeldingen/hoogezand.gif
(1)

This map shows that the Hoogezand-Sappemeer Municipality is located
only a few kilometers east of the town of Groningen:
http://home.tiscali.nl/~ac21639/krt.jpg
(2)

Here is contact information for the Hoogezand-Sappemeer Municipality:

Gemeentehuis Hoogezand-Sappermeer
Gorecht Oost 157
9603 AE Hoogezand
NEDERLANDE
--
Phone: +31(0)598-373737
E-Mail: bestuur@hoogezand-sappemeer.nl
Website: http://www.hoogezand-sappemeer.nl/


Sources:

(1)
Micro Magic: Zeillocatie Hoogezand
http://home.hetnet.nl/~micro-magic/hoogezand.htm

(2)
Informatie over de provincie Groningen: Gemeenten
http://home.tiscali.nl/~ac21639/plaatsen.html


Regards,
Scriptor
tumbleweed61-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
This researcher kept digging and found the exact information I needed.
 Outstanding work!

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