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Q: Condominium by-law challenge -- Pennsylvania ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
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Subject: Condominium by-law challenge -- Pennsylvania
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: ann110-ga
List Price: $30.00
Posted: 06 May 2004 06:46 PDT
Expires: 05 Jun 2004 06:46 PDT
Question ID: 342006
I know PA is part of the Uniform Condiminium Act.  The by-laws for my
complex states "no Fences" and "all architechtural changes must be
approved".  I am not challenging the by-laws themselves, but the interpretation. 
I have put up a fence, did not ask for permission to put it up,  it is
NOT on common property, but on land that I am required to maintain via
landscaping(landscaping changes do not have to be approved).  I have
totally screened the fence with evergreens. The condominium board says
I am in violation of the architechture by-laws, I say I am OK since
you can't see the fence and it's on the part of the property that I am
required to maintain.  Do I have a chance to win if this goes to
court?

Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 06 May 2004 07:19 PDT
I would think it depends on what your bylaws say and how they define
"a fence". Can you post them here?

Regards;
tutuzdad-ga

Clarification of Question by ann110-ga on 06 May 2004 08:15 PDT
Dont have by-laws.  Just looking for an educated guess right now.
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Subject: Re: Condominium by-law challenge -- Pennsylvania
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 07 May 2004 21:55 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Dear ann110-ga;

Ok, since you asked for a guess I?ll do what I can for you. Here goes:

You admittedly state the following: 

?The by-laws for my complex states "no Fences" 

"?all architectural changes must be approved"

?I have put up a fence, did not ask for permission to put it up?

Based on this alone it seems you have little chance of winning your
case should the matter come to litigation.

However, it would depend largely on what your bylaws define as a
?fence?. Since we don?t have your bylaws handy, let?s consider how
other similarly situated regulations in your state define the
structure:

?FENCE - A barrier of vegetative growth or of other natural or
fabricated materials placed or arranged as a line of demarcation
between lots or to enclose a lot or a part of a lot.?
HFCA ADMINSTRATIVE CODE
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=pennsylvania+bylaws+fence&ei=UTF-8&n=20&fl=0&u=www.hfca.com/admincod.html&w=pennsylvania+bylaws+fence&d=6D87AEDEE5&c=543&yc=50262&icp=1

?FENCE: A constructed barrier of any natural or man-made material or
combination of materials erected to enclose or screen an area of land,
but not including a retaining wall.?
JOINT ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE BOROUGHS OF CRAFTON, ROSSLYN FARMS, AND
THORNBURG PENNSYLVANIA
http://www.crafton.org/djzo.html

Now for the textbook definition:

?A structure serving as an enclosure, a barrier, or a boundary,
usually made of posts or stakes joined together by boards, wire, or
rails.?
DICTIONARY.COM
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?db=*&q=fence


Having examined the various definitions from a number of sources from
which your geographic area generally accepts as the definition of
?fence?, it certainly appears that you have erected one, even thought
it does not encompass the entirety of the property and is well hidden.
It appears that the commonly understood definition for a ?fence? is
?any fence?, whether it is wood, wire or hedge and whether it encloses
your entire lawn or only 3 square feet.

Now let?s examine case law, (that is similar to yours somewhat) in
which the party who built the fence insisted that he followed the
rules of the bylaws to the letter and made a request for architectural
approval as required by the property bylaws, but claimed his request
was unnecessarily delayed so he built his fence anyway.

WRIGHTSTOWN HUNT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, INC. v. LEVESQUE et al.
http://www.bucksbar.org/0523opn.pdf

Even though THIS GUY COMPLIED with the published ruled to some degree
the fence builder STILL not only lost his case in court, but ALSO was
ordered to pay the plaintiff?s legal fees for dragging him into court
for building the fence in the first place; something the bylaws
clearly prohibited.

So, since you asked for an educated guess, given the general
definition of ?fence? and the fact that you knew in advance what you
were doing was contrary to the agreed upon bylaws, AND the fact that
there is a legal precedent in which a guy who did much more to comply
with the rules than you did and still lost his case, my guess (and I
feel REAL comfortable with it) would be that you don?t stand a chance
at winning your case in the event that you are sued for satisfaction.

For your sake and peice of mind I wish I could have told you something
different, but honesty is our policy even when the pill is a bitter
one to swallow - and I don?t think you came here expecting any less
than that.

I wish you luck.


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ann110-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
Not what I wanted to hear, but a great job of research!

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