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Subject:
How to preserve self-destructing DVD's with common items.
Category: Science > Chemistry Asked by: pb2au-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
07 May 2004 16:31 PDT
Expires: 08 May 2004 04:53 PDT Question ID: 342971 |
Chemistry Question: What readily avalable chemical (reducing?) agents can be used (say in a bath) to extend the life of a self-destructing DVD which relies on oxygen in the air to turn a photosensitive pigment opaque and thus renders the disk optically unreadable? This recently released technology as described in patent number 6,709,802 is a form of planned obsolesence and is not a copy-protection scheme. What common chemical can the DVD be treated with (say in a chemical bath)such that the photosensitive pigment remains locked in a permanently reduced state and thus extends the life of the DVD that one has purchased and now owns? |
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Re: How to preserve self-destructing DVD's with common items.
From: dr_bob-ga on 07 May 2004 19:05 PDT |
lol.... This patent covers a bunch of stuff, not just doping with an oxygen sensitive compound. If it was simple as oxygen exposure, u could just coat it with vegetable oil to prevent oxidation, but that isn't really what they've described. The smart idea that you can't get around is the use of a photosensitive pigment that gets activated by the laser in your drive. This would be doped into the polycarbonate, and would slowly generate singlet oxygen by a chemical reaction with some other compound also impregnated into the polycarbonate. Such a process would likely be pretty fast with the high energy light of a laser, but slow with ambient light. Thus, the more you use your DVD, the quicker it dies. Such a process would not stop you from say making a copy of said DVD, should you say, plug in the DVD player, into say, a DVD recorder.... |
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Re: How to preserve self-destructing DVD's with common items.
From: pb2au-ga on 08 May 2004 04:03 PDT |
Dr. Bob has made the point that the patent itself also mentions the generation of singlet oxgen secondary to the dvd laser stiking the photosensitive pigment (in addition to other mechanisms). However, this light oxidation is not the primary mechanism that the disks which are currently being sold use. Instead, they work by exposure to oxygen in the air. This is evidenced by the fact that they are sold in an oxygen-proof package which has areas that are exposed to light but do not oxidize. Thus, it is reasonable that a reducing agent can prevent them from being unreadable. My question is: what common reducing agent that is readily available could accomplish this? |
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