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find position of object on table.
Category: Science > Instruments and Methods Asked by: namor-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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13 May 2004 08:37 PDT
Expires: 12 Jun 2004 08:37 PDT Question ID: 345790 |
I need to find a 2-D postion of the object within .1 inch accuracy. Basically I have a table(4 feet on each side), with 7 objects(about 2 inches wide) on them that move around on the table randomly. I'de like to be able obtain the position of each object, and then feed that information to my pc, where I can simulate the same thing on the screen. I'm wondering if there are some kind of instruments that will allow me to do this. My budget for this is also like under 500$. Maybe some kind of sensors that i can place on the objects, or some optical tool that can measure it. | |
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Re: find position of object on table.
From: omnivorous-ga on 13 May 2004 08:49 PDT |
Namor -- I was going to recommend a "laser ruler" or "laser tape" (laser tape measure) but unfortunately the reviews of the Irwin Straitline note that it's not particularly accurate: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000ALR30/104-6058330-5571112?v=glance Best regards, Omnivorous-GA |
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Re: find position of object on table.
From: namor-ga on 13 May 2004 09:06 PDT |
Thanks, for the comment. One other thing, I need all the positions need to be taken at a point in time, and then continuosly repeated every 5 seconds, and fed to a PC. |
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Re: find position of object on table.
From: hfshaw-ga on 13 May 2004 16:56 PDT |
How about a simple digital imaging system (e.g., a digital camera or videocamera) positioned above the table that takes an image and feeds it to your computer every 5 seconds. In order to achieve 0.1" position resolution out of a 48" square table, you would need the table to occupy an area of at least 480x480 pixels on the image sensor. (In practice, you'd probably want twice this resolution.) Appropriate image processing on the computer should be able to determine the center of each object. You would probably need to correct for optical distortion when converting from pixel coordinates to "real" coordinates, but the necessary corrections could easily be determined by imaging a grid of known dimensions (say 1"x1") laid on the table and comparing the coordinates of the actual grid intersection points with their pixel coordinates. |
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Re: find position of object on table.
From: parubok-ga on 30 May 2004 20:12 PDT |
To follow up on "How about a simple digital imaging system" Very good idea. If you are running a Linux OS on your computer, then this project is quite affordable. You can position a web cam above the table, just as hfshaw-ga suggested. Here is a list of Web cams for which there exists a Linux driver: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ I suggest one of the recent cameras - Logitech QuickCam 4000 Pro You can get it for under $100 The "image processing" C code (it is not that involved) already exists - check out the senior design project. http://www.sydow.us/sdp/default.asp I'm sure the guys will be happy to answer specific questions. More details: The code is written in C. You will want to color the top of each object with distinct colors. Instead of the grid you could place two colored circles on the table, and if the physical coordinate of each is known to you. You can then use a simple matrix calculation to transform each pixel coordinate to real coordinate Best regards, Parubok |
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Re: find position of object on table.
From: silver777-ga on 31 May 2004 04:39 PDT |
Hi Omni, Just have to say it .. invite a different friend around each evening to a barbecue at your place .. with tape or ruler in hand .. have them call out the measurements which you can then enter into a simple Excel spreadsheet for correlation. Better still, invite 7 friends, place their name label on each of the 7 objects .. tell 'em it's a new version of Battleship. They have to call out or record the X and Y co-ordinates of each random move in 5 second intervals. This includes of course the co-ordinates of each extremity of the said object. It might be slower, but much more fun especially if you provide the Cab Sav. :) |
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