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subtraction for a 2nd grader
Category: Reference, Education and News > Education Asked by: pondgrass-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
14 May 2004 07:32 PDT
Expires: 13 Jun 2004 07:32 PDT Question ID: 346322 |
in a subraction, can you ever regroup to make 19 ones? And Explain. |
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Re: subtraction for a 2nd grader
Answered By: maniac-ga on 14 May 2004 15:59 PDT Rated: |
Hello Pondgrass, As mentioned in the comment - the answer is NO (for base 10). What is missing in the comment is why. Let's search using phrases like: regroup subtraction explain regroup subtraction regroup subtraction "19 ones" to find sites such as: http://www.themathpage.com/ARITH/subtract-whole-numbers-subtract-decimals.htm Scroll down to part 2 titled "What is subtraction with regrouping?" which explains that regrouping is needed when the digit in the subtrahend (the one we are subtracting) is larger. The example shown: 542 - 196 requires two regroup steps - one for the ones place and again in the tens place. To get 19 ones, the subtrahend would have to have a "ten" (or larger) digit in the ones place so it would be larger than the "9 digit" in the other value. You can't do that in base 10 (but can in base 16) so the answer is no. There is another good reference on "why should we regroup" at http://www.eduplace.com/math/mw/background/2/06/te_2_06_subregroup_ask.html which appears to be part of a teacher's guide on second grade math. There is also a good home schooling reference at http://www.home-school.com/Articles/phs17-bobhazen.html which describes cases where you should use consistent words / phrases (the page uses verbalization) when describing how math problems. When I used the last search phrase - only three sites came up and a quick review show they all describe a number of situations - not just subtraction. The use of "19 ones" appear in places where the student is expected to put the value back into a normal form. This pretty much confirms the original answer. Please let me know if you need any additional references on this topic. --Maniac |
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Re: subtraction for a 2nd grader
From: ac67-ga on 14 May 2004 09:41 PDT |
Not in base 10. Hexadecimal is a different matter, but I doubt 2d graders are subtracting in hexadecimal - although they are getting more advanced... |
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