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Q: When was the HP 1000 introduced? ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   1 Comment )
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Subject: When was the HP 1000 introduced?
Category: Computers > Hardware
Asked by: drip-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 15 May 2004 06:37 PDT
Expires: 14 Jun 2004 06:37 PDT
Question ID: 346737
What year was the HP 1000 introduced? The correct answer to this
question will be considered a full Answer.

Optionally, I'd like to know how long the HP 1000 was being sold new
by its manufacturer.

Here's the background: I'm writing an essay about some old
technologies I've worked with, including the HP 1000, and I'd like to
know how old the computer is, so that I can accurately underscore my
point.

I'll add $1.00 as a tip if I can get this answered today.
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Subject: Re: When was the HP 1000 introduced?
Answered By: markj-ga on 15 May 2004 07:04 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
drip --

The HP 1000 series of computers was introduced in 1966.  It was
discontinued by HP and removed from its price lists as of November 1,
2000.

Here, from TechWeb's TechEncyclopedia, is its entry for the HP1000:

"A family of realtime computers from HP introduced in 1966. They are
sensor-based computers used extensively in laboratory and
manufacturing environments for collecting and analyzing data."
TechEncyclopedia: HP 1000
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm?term=HP1000&exact=1


And here is HP's official notice of the discontinuance of the HP 1000 series:

"Effective November 1, 2000, HP 1000 hardware and software products
will no longer be available for purchase and product development and
enhancements will be discontinued. . . .
HP1000/RTE: Discontinuance and End of Support
http://www.hp.com/products1/rte/tech_support/disco_strat.html
 

Search Strategy:

I found a reference to the 1966 introduction of the series with the
following Google search:

hp1000 OR "hp 1000" introduced
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=hp1000+OR+%22hp+1000%22+computer+introduced

I then tried to hone on in the discontinuance date with several
searches, incluuding this one, which led me the HP product support
site and eventually to the link provided above:

hp1000 OR "hp 1000" computer replaced
://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=hp1000+OR+%22hp+1000%22+computer+replaced


I am confident that this is the information you are seeking, and I am
happy to have been able to provide it to you promptly.  If anything is
unclear, please ask for clarification before rating this answer.

markj-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by drip-ga on 15 May 2004 09:09 PDT
Thanks for the info. Based on the links you provided, I was able to
find out that the specific machine I was working on was a model 2171A.
http://www.digidome.nl/hewlett_packard.htm states that this was
"probably issued in 1972." However, "probably" isn't good enough...
Can you think of anywhere I might go to confirm or deny this date?

Clarification of Answer by markj-ga on 15 May 2004 11:25 PDT
drip --

Beyond the site that you found, I have been unable to come up with
information about a model designated "2171A" anywhere, including the
entire HP Web site and in Google Groups.

As for finding someone that might have information, you might try the
contact person for this site:
Hewlett Packard HP 2000
http://www.decodesystems.com/hp2000/

The site was updated within the last few weeks and seems to be a
source for lore on ancient HP computers.  The contact person is Dan
Veeneman and an email link is at the bottom of the page.

Of course, you could also try the phone or email options on the HP Web
site, although it will likely me a frustrating process to get to the
right person:
HP: Contact Information
http://welcome.hp.com/country/us/en/contact_us.html

Here are some hints that I have found that may or may not give you
leads to a positive identification and time frame of your computer.

First, at this site, at a different page on the site linked above, the
HP2100A is described as an "early 1970s general purpose computer."
Decode Systems: Classic Computers
http://www.decodesystems.com/classic-computers.html

The 2100A's technology is described here in some detail, and its
introduction is pegged at 1971:

"1971 The HP 2100A computer is introduced with these features: 
 First microprogrammable minicomputer in the industry 
 Memory expansion from 4K to 32K words 
 14 I/O channels, expandable to 45 with the I/O extender 
 Memory protect, dual-channel DMA, hardware multiply/divide 
 Optional hardware floating point processor 
 First switching power supply in a minicomputer. "

Interex: 25 Years of Real-Time Computing
http://www.interex.org/tech/csl/RTE/archive/poyner1.htm

The usefulness of this information is dependent on establishing that
the 2171A was one of this series, which seems likely, but which I
can't confirm.

Finally, I think I can demonstrate just how murky this history is by
reproducing a newsgroup posting that relates 1000 series history with
some 2100 series history:

"The oldest systems in the "1000" series are the M series. They
consisted of the 21mx 2112a, 21mx 2108a, and the 21mx 2105a. Later HP
introduced the E series with the new 21mxe 2113a and 21mxe 2109a
boxes. The E series did not replace the M series though. Then there
was a major revision to the power supplies used in the cpu which was
indicated by the B version (21mx 2112a became 21mxe 2112b, 21mxa 2108a
became 21mx 2108b, 21mxe 2113a went to 21mxe 2113b, and 21mxe 2109a
went to 21mxe 2109b). The 21mx 2105a stayed 21mx 2105a though. Finally
there was the introduction of the F series with the 1000F 2117f and
the 1000F 2111f. When the F series was introduced, all the systems
became known as 1000's model such and such, with different
designations. So finally there was the HP1000 F series 2117F, the
HP1000 F series 2111F, the 21mxe 2113b became the 1000E 2113e, the
21mxe 2109b became the 1000E 2109e, the 21mxe 2112b became 1000M
2112m, and the 21mx 2105a finally changed to 1000M 2105a. "

Decode Systems: Usenet Comments Related to HP-2000
http://www.decodesystems.com/hp2000/snippets.html


The bottom line is that I can't be much further nailing down the murky
history of the specific model number that you cite in your
clarification request.  I suggest that you try the contacts I provided
above.  If that fails, you might consider posting an additional new
question on Google Answers (probably priced a little higher) to see if
another researcher has the specialized knowledge that it probably
requires.

markj-ga
drip-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $1.50
Wow, that was quick! Answered comprehensively and in under an hour!

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Subject: Re: When was the HP 1000 introduced?
From: markj-ga on 15 May 2004 07:43 PDT
 
drip --

Thanks much for the kind words, the rating and the tip.

markj-ga

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