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Subject: Physics involved in Blood Pressure measurement
Category: Science
Asked by: jat-ga
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Posted: 15 May 2004 10:53 PDT
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Question ID: 346816
I'd like to know all the ins and outs of what's involved in measuring
blood pressure. The primary context here would be hypertension (high
blood pressure) and I'm thinking primarily of the physics/forces
involved in measurements taken via the use of the blood pressure cuff
(sphygmomanometer) above the elbow.  I'm mainly interested in the
various parameters and to what extent each plays a role (and how
significant) in the overall measurement.  For example, I assume that
volume of blood per stroke (heartbeat), diameter of vessel,
flexibility of vessel wall, etc. are all part of the equation.  But
I'd like to know, for example, how wide of swings in measurement can
be caused by varying flexibility of the blood vessel in the arm.  I'm
thinking that, with age, a certain loss of flexibility can markedly
impact the mmHg reading for systole.  But to what degree?  Much of the
language used when describing hypertension seems to focus on blood
vessel diameter (which has decreased over time due to
atherosclerosis), but I'm also wondering whether a loss of flexibility
might be a major factor, as well.  Also, rather than a consistent
thickening of the vessels throughout the body (reducing diameter
thereby increasing pressure), what about narrowing here and there in
various locations, instead?  Wouldn't that have the same effect on
raising the measurement of pressure?  How far down the line can this
happen where it noticeably affects the pressure measurement at the arm
(i.e., capillaries? venules?).  Lots of info, please...
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Subject: Re: Physics involved in Blood Pressure measurement
Answered By: hedgie-ga on 23 May 2004 23:11 PDT
Rated:3 out of 5 stars
 
Hello jat
   
  The search of material on this topic is complicated by large
  number of repetitive articles explaining hypertension disease,
  information for patients, recommended remedies  

 Sorting out  those articles, that we find some basic description of physics
   From simple explanation, which explains how big the swing
  (from systolic to diastolic)  is, and what is being measured:
    http://courses.science.fau.edu/~rjordan/rev_notes/blood.htm

                     To more technical overviews:

  HUMAN BLOOD FLOW MEASUREMENT AND MODELING
... Blood vessels provide a tubular network to channel the blood to every 
 This model for flow rate in elastic tubes provides ... 
www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~kpwilkie/bloodflow.pdf    

              and finally complex technical articles, 
               many describing computer models of the
               hydrodynamic flow of a fluid (blood) in elthe astic channels.

               For your purpose, most suitable may be these articles:

   Readings from Scientific American -bibliography  
   http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/scientam/
  
in particular these two:
     1/59 54
The Microcirculation of the Blood." The mechanisms that regulate blood flow. 
       1/68
 The Venous System." Wood; deals with pressure and fluid flow dynamics
of the cardiovascular system.

   which would be available in the library. They probably can be
purchased for on-line delivery., more info at
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0001D598-F071-1CB8-B4A8809EC588EEDF&sc=I100322

      I will provide a list of additional references bellow,
      as they may be of possible interest, but first I want
      to  address your specific questions: 

>>    loss of flexibility can markedly impact the mmHg reading for systole  

    Yes. The comin references above, measures sum of two effects:
    1)blood pressure and 2)elasticity of the blood vessel.

   The second factor is much smaller and is neglected in common procedure.
   It is small for both young and healthy tissue
   and for aged, sclerotic veins and arteries.
   
  The typical  blood pressure of about 120 mm Hg 
   is more then pressure needed to flex (an empty) typical blood vessel.

    How much less - that's a whole field of research: 
 Examples:
1) In one experiment,  effect of   250 MAG of caffeine which causes
stiffening is 11/8 mm Hg
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/16/1817_50966
  
2)  Cross-sectional studies have shown that aortic and carotid
stiffness (evaluated by the pulse wave velocity
 increase with age by approximately 10% to 15% during a  period of 10 years
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12460708&dopt=Abstract

  So, two efffects exist. 1) The usual, non-invasive measurement,  
measures blood pressure with stiffness of the
 vessel added, and       2)  As arteries harden (with age,..)  the
higher pressure is needed to deliver the blood, being the second
cause, next to narowing of the channel.

  The affect of narrowing of arteries is stronger, and localized
narrowing you mention, will increase pressure on the whole section.
      The pressure gets lower as we progress from larger vessels to
the capillaries. There is more on this on the more technical
publications listed below.

 
ADDITIONAL REFERENCES
  Here are some additional  references to material available on the net:

   
  history - theory and details of measurement
 http://homepages.uel.ac.uk/M.S.Meah/bs250page4clec3.htm   
 http://hypertextbook.com/physics/matter/pressure-fluid/  

Effect of wall elasticity and other factors that Affect Blood Pressure
... Factors Affecting Blood Pressure Vessel Elasticity Blood Volume
Cardiac Output Blood Vessel Diameter ...
 http://education.adam.com/products/ipie/iguide/ Fact_Aff_Blood_Pressure.pdf -  


      50 pages report of conference on measurement techniques - not
too relevant but gives
    measurement errors       (+/- 8 mm HG)      p14
 www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/prof/heart/hbp/bpmeasu.pdf - Similar pages
 

   
 
simulation        - complex math model
 ... was also considered in an elastic pipe and simulations ..
. assessment of lattice Boltzmann hydrodynamics and boundary
 ... Analysis of 3D transient blood flow passing 
... 
www.maths.strath.ac.uk/~aas99101/reports/pisapaper.doc -        
  symposium
    http://www.eps.org/aps/meet/DFD03/baps/abs/S1090.html
 
 
  the shape of the blood vessel becomes unstable at high blood
pressure if the inner radius of the vessel becomes perturbed.
          http://physicsweb.org/article/news/2/10/11    
  
Model -advanced   math  (describes pressure as function time )
  http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/9806032          
                                                                                   

 Search Terms: Hydrodynamics (physics) blood pressure 
              channel flow, elastic flow, blood
  

hedgie

Request for Answer Clarification by jat-ga on 25 May 2004 23:17 PDT
I don't understand your annotation for the references.  Please explain
what you mean by:
-------------------
in particular these two:
     1/59 54
The Microcirculation of the Blood." The mechanisms that regulate blood flow. 
       1/68
 The Venous System." Wood; deals with pressure and fluid flow dynamics
of the cardiovascular system.
---------------------------
And, what do you mean by "comin references" and where are they?


 Yes. The comin references above, measures sum of two effects:
    1)blood pressure and 2)elasticity of the blood vessel.

Clarification of Answer by hedgie-ga on 26 May 2004 05:39 PDT
1) The numbers refer to a bibliography - list of papers on this page:  

              http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/scientam/fluids.html 

 titled  
                   Readings from Scientific American   

      List was compiled by a professor     Richard D. Piccard      who says:

     "              This list of articles has grown from one that was
originally compiled by the Spring, 1979, class of Medical Physics at
Kalamazoo College. It is
indexed 
into 13 categories, with the articles listed in chronological order
within each group. The 13 topics, listed above, were chosen with an
eye to the organization of the
text used in that course (Medical Physics, by Cameron and Skofronick),
but with the hope that they would prove useful in other contexts. The
listing is substantially
complete from 1952 through 1981, and includes some more recent refrences. 
If you do not have access to a library with back issues of the
magazine, I would suggest that you contact the publisher:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/       "

I assume that first number is year/month and second a page in that
issue of the Scientific American magazine.

Sometimes it takes some clicking around to find these details,
 I should have included that, not assume that you will find that.  

2) I apologize about the 
                    "comin references"   that is some strange
misprint,  perhaps induced by spellchecker,  which I did not catch, 
not a typo for    'comming'   .

  What I meant is this:
 According to the explanation in the references above, the instrument
measures pressure at which the blood stops flowing (as determined by
listening to the sound).
 That happens when the  channel in the  artery is squeezed to zero clearance.  

For that:
 1) the wall of the artery has to be flexed againt it's own resistance
 2) the pressure of the liquid inside the channel has to be overcome

The two forces do add.  Im a more rigid pipe, e.g. metal)  the force 
needed to  deform  the pipe could exceed  the resitance of the fluid. 

In case of the artery, even aged artery, the force needed to flex the
'pipe' is much less then resistance of the fluid (the actual blood
pressure).
 difference is neglected. The net blood pressure can be determined by the 
invasive measurement, the force needed to flex an empty artery can be measured
(e.g. during an autopsy) - which is how we know the seond is much smaller
(10 vs 120 mm Hg).

    Please do ask for additional explanation as needed. 
 I will be more carefull with my typing.

hedgie
jat-ga rated this answer:3 out of 5 stars
I would have liked more, but this will suffice for now.  If I
need/want more, I'll get back to you...

Comments  
Subject: Re: Physics involved in Blood Pressure measurement
From: eaenlle-ga on 28 May 2004 22:09 PDT
 
Please see the following link regarding the physiology of what
determines the blood pressure and how it is measured.

http://www.cvphysiology.com/Blood%20Pressure/BP002.htm

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