I am interested in any verifiable information about the fictional
planet of Aocicinori or about the person who described it, who used
the psuedonym Scotlund L. Moore.  I have a color plate that was
printed by the Houston Lithographing Corporation and San Jacinto
Negative Service Inc, both located in Houston, Texas.  The incription
mentions a man named Ray Gilbert.  I am willing to offer (perhaps
substantially) more for the locations of any other plates or of the
book describing this planet.  Information I have suggests that Moore
was likely an inmate at a state mental hospital in Texas.

I will reward more information with more money, the listed price is
just the base price.  Contact me regarding the information before
expecting payment.  I will need to verify it first.

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Request for Question Clarification by nenna-ga on 16 May 2004 18:04 PDT

What kind of verifiable information are you looking for? Verifiable is
subjective. Somepeople will take web pages and some want cited factual
sources. Please let us know in more detail so that we can better get
you your answer.

Nenna-GA
google Answers Researcher

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Clarification of Question by chihowa-ga on 17 May 2004 05:48 PDT

Well, I've already done several searches on multiple search engines
that returned zero relevant results for the terms I'm looking for. 
I'd really prefer some cited sources that linked a name to the
pseudonym and put him in the right place at the right time.  Any
reference that described the planet or the book correctly would be of
interest, but simply a webpage with the word Aocicinori isn't what I'm
looking for.  I haven't found any such so far, so it might be
interesting, but it is really more information about it that I'm
looking for.

I apologize if I'm barking up the wrong tree, I've never used this service before.

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Request for Question Clarification by nenna-ga on 17 May 2004 08:03 PDT

No need for an apology, you're doing exactly the right thing. We, (the
researchers) Use this clarification system to make sire we know what
you, as a customer need before we start research and to communicate
with you. You answered my question and hopefully I or another
researcher wil be able to help you. Thanks for responding so quickly.

Nenna-GA

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 17 May 2004 08:47 PDT

Hello chihowa-ga,

You've posed quite an interesting challenge to researchers.  I've
checked a number of sources -- newspaper archives, copyright
databases, historical references -- but so far, the information you
desire is proving very elusive.

Two questions, if I may:

--Do you have any idea of the date of the color plate you have?  If it
is undated, what would be your best guess?

--You've alluded to other information in your possession, e.g. the
likelihood that Moore was institutionalized.  What leads you to
suspect this?  The more you can tell us about WHAT you know and HOW
you know it (that is, what documents/conversations/sources are you
aware of?), the better the chances are that we can uncover some
additional information.  Please let us know as much as you can,
bearing in mind that Google Answers is a public forum.

Thanks.

pafalafa-ga

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Clarification of Question by chihowa-ga on 20 May 2004 05:37 PDT

I found some more information recently.  Unfortunately, I'm too busy
to compile it all right now.  This weekend I'll set up a site with
everything I know about the situation and pretty pictures of the
plate.  I'll let you know when I get it up.

Scrooge-ga, thanks so much for finding that record.  That puts a
different angle on things.

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Clarification of Question by chihowa-ga on 23 May 2004 16:24 PDT

The page with the pictures, etc. is at http://www.packwidth.net/aocicinori/

Let me know what you think.

Thanks.

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 26 May 2004 13:06 PDT

I've located a copy of the book.  It's in New York.  I have found no
other information about Aocicinori or Mr. Moore other than the book's
whereabouts.

Should I post the information as an answer to your question?

pafalafa-ga

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Clarification of Question by chihowa-ga on 26 May 2004 17:33 PDT

pafalafa-ga,

Yeah, as long as you have enough information for me to actually find
the book, you can answer it.  If it's at a library, it'd be nice to
know that it was still there.

Thanks for your help!

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 27 May 2004 07:00 PDT

chihowa-ga 

I'm in the process of trying to confirm that the book is, in fact,
where it is supposed to be.  If I can 100% confirm, then I'll post the
information I have as an answer to your question.

Keep your fingers crossed....!

paf

OK, got it!

The sole copy of the book you are seeking belongs to the collection of
the NY Public Library.

I asked the very helpful staff of the library to confirm that the
book, indeed, is available from them, and to let me know if it can be
accessed through interlibrary loan.  Here is the reply I received:

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From: "callaheadhssl" <callaheadhssl@nypl.org>
Subject: Re: The Research Libraries E-mail Reference 
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:18:54 -0400 
     

The item you requested is at our offsite storage facility.  Please be
aware that materials from The New York Public Library's research
collections are generally not available for interlibrary loan.

Our Interlibrary Loan lending activities at the New York Public
Library Research Libraries are limited due to the nature of our
non-circulating, research level collections.  We are full participants
in the RLG SHARES consortium, but for OCLC and ALA requests we are
only able to loan service microforms for materials that have been
reformated using USNP or NEH funding.

Because the item you requested is located at our Offsite facility, one
option available to you is to have selected pages (whether it be the
table of contents, the index, or a specific article) scanned and sent
to you electronically through your email.  Due to copyright
restrictions we are probably unable to copy the entire volume for you.

If you need to see the physical volume, then we can retrieve the item
for your use during your next visit to NYC.

==========

So, there you have it.  You can email them directly (at the address
above) to request having pages scanned and sent to you, or you can
make the request through the NYPL website.

The actual record for your book is here:

http://catnyp.nypl.org/search/X?SEARCH=Aocicinori+&l=&m=&SORT=D&s=&p=&x=&Da=&Db=&searchscope=1

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Call # M-10 3824  
Author Moore, Scotlund L.  
Title The galaxy of aocicinori.  
Imprint Houston : Commercial Letter Service, 1959- 
OFFSITE 
DUE 07-26-04
Location Humanities-Genrl Res 
Edition 1. ed. 
Descript v. illus. 29 cm. 
Note Pt. 1, "Book number 30(50)." 

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An odd thing is this.  The record -- which previously showed the book
as on the shelf -- now shows it on loan, with a due date of July 26th.
 I have a feeling this is just due to the fact that I had inquired
about it, and they had to create a "book borrowed" record in order to
check the book.

You can contact the library through a variety of routes using the
information on this page:

http://www.nypl.org/questions/


chihowa-ga, I fully expect this information will be all you need to
finally have your first look at "The galaxy of aocicinori" -- or at
least some select pages of it.

But before rating this answer, if anything here is unclear, just let
me know, and I'll be happy to assist you further, as best I can.

All the best,

pafalafa-ga


search strategy:  searched the WorldCat database for [The galaxy of aocicinori]


P.S.  Thanks to scrooge-ga for the information on Scotlund Moore -- good find!

It may not be a psuedonym, per the Social Security death index. You
may get a time frame also.
SCOTLUND MOORE Born 31 Aug 1925 - Died Jan 1969 77001 
   (Houston, Harris, TX) 480-24-9807 SS# Issued in Iowa 
You might try filing a Form SS-5. I haven't tried it, so I don't know
what kind of information you will receive for your $27.00.
http://tinyurl.com/2dcjf

Good luck.

Scotlund L. Moore was a patient at the Baylor Psychiatric Hospital in
Houston, Texas in the mid-late '60s. The lithographs of the map of the
planet Aocicinori (of which I have a framed copy on the wall of my
study) were hawked by a friend of his who was an outpatient at the
hospital. He was selling them for a dollar or two, mostly to students
at Rice University, just across the street from the hospital. Part of
the sales pitch was an explanation of the various colored/striped
sections of the planet (which I remember well). One area was where
prostitution was legal, another color indicated underground sulphur
mines, etc. The explanation of how the planet (which was a cube, 2
inches on a side) could be mapped as a two-dimensional square was
particularly bizarre and interesting.

After I left Rice, a classmate who was as taken by Moore's work as I
was, kept me apprized of him and his works. His drawings of the
animals/creatures that inhabited the planet were being sold on campus
for a while but I never got to see them. My friend got to know Mr.
Moore and after Moore's death arranged for his collected "works" to be
given to the Rice University library. I believe that the library
accepted them but it's been many years since I've been in contact with
him so I can't be sure. I plan to find out.

The reason for my response today is that I recently received an e-mail
from an old friend of mine who remembered seeing the map on my wall
and wondered if I still had it. And that prompted me to do a Google
search on "aocicinori" to see if others had taken an interest in
Moore's drawings and whether information/material about him was
available on the Web. But it seems I have more information than most.
I'll keep checking back to see if other data surfaces.

Moore is important to me because as a student and collector of
"outsider art" his map was my introduction to the subject, though it
was many years later before I learned that there was even a name for
the type of "art" that attracted me.

Unfortunately, I've been pretty busy lately and the book was checked
out before I could get it.  I'll try again when it is returned and
rate the answer then.  Thanks to everybody for your help.

Thanks for checking in...I'm looking forward to learning what happens
here.  Please don't forget to keep us posted.

Thanks.

pafalafa-ga

Out of curiosity, I googled Scotlund Moore and found this thread. 
Hopefully this is not too late.  My aunt worked at a Houston hospital
in the mid-1960's  and gave my mother a set of the prints and a copy
of Moore's pages of notes in that tiny print. Sadly, the prints have
been water damaged on the lower right, but not on the actual
creatures' images.  With appropriate matting to cover the lower right
they would be perfectly fine for display.  If the original poster of
the question wants the images (and hopefully sees this comment), I
would be glad to give them to him or her.  They might be useful as
extras.

purpletwilight-ga,
 That's fantastic!  If you wouldn't mind parting with them, I would be
very interested in the plates of the creatures.  My last comment was
removed for including my email address, but my address is listed at
the bottom of my Packwidth.net page which is referenced above.  Get in
touch with me.

pafalafa-ga,
 Thanks for your patience with the long wait for me to rate your
answer.  I'm working on getting the book still.  Unfortunately, I
don't know anybody who currently lives in NY, so it's going slow.

Chihowa

This saga has taken some interesting twists and turns...it's great
that other people have seen this Q&A, and have responded with new
information.

Have you tried taking NYPL up on their offer to scan a few pages of
the book and send them to you electronically?  At least that would be
a start.

Let me know how things work out.

paf