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MIDDLE NAMES
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: yesmam-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
17 May 2004 19:22 PDT
Expires: 16 Jun 2004 19:22 PDT Question ID: 347959 |
Why do people have middle names? While you're answering this, does it have some connection to Catholics taking on saint's names at confirmation? My middle name is Anne, but so are probably 75% of women Baby Boomer's too. Thanks, yesmam |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
Answered By: denco-ga on 17 May 2004 21:52 PDT Rated: |
Howdy yesmam-ga, Middle names actually started off being a second "first" name of honorific nature. They could symbolize a battle fought, a tribute to a god, saint or someone of importance in the family. They have since become "middle" names. Catholics taking on saint's names as first and (sometimes multiple) middle names appears to be an outgrowth of this practice. They haven't always been around according to this web page maintained by Trevor James Hudson. http://home.vicnet.net.au/~murtoa/names.htm "Middle names weren't used until the 15th century, when a second Christian name was used as a status symbol by German nobility. In the United States, after the American Revolution it became the fashion to use the mother's maiden name as a middle name. Today the middle name is also likely to have been selected from a favourite ancestor." The Name Nerds web site points out that it took time to become popular. http://www.namenerds.com/irish/brigid.html "In regard to middle names, a convention that came into use in the 17th century ..." Why keep middle names around? A Genealogy.com message posting answers this. http://www.genealogy.com/rhonda041802.html?Welcome=1084852891 "'Middle names constitute what is almost a separate nomenclature, useful for minor purposes such as pacifying relations who want their names to live on, or perhaps genuinely acting as tokens of respect to namesakes,' says Leslie Dunkling in The Guinness Book of Names. He goes on to point out that middle names are much like family heirlooms and should be preserved." This web page maintained by Dan Gamber, Deena Mullininx, and many others gets a bit more scholarly on the subject. http://www.s97358565.onlinehome.us/hemminga/give-nam.htm "The patronymic was replaced as legal identifier after the edict of 1811 by the surname. However the use of patronymics in naming continued in many families to this day, although others dropped it or started giving second given names (middle names)." Not all cultures have middle names, but rather maintain something similar to the "two first names" tradition. From a web page by Jerry Boucher. http://www.usfca.edu/~boucherj/namepage.html "The two parts of the Korean given name form a single name which corresponds to the first name of an American, and there is no "middle" name." More, from the Cornell University "Dear Uncle Ezra" column, referencing the Encyclopedia Britannica. http://ezra.cornell.edu/posting.php?timestamp=913266000 "Although the article does not specifically address the middle name per se, it is easy to see that middle names are pervasive throughout the world, and came about unofficially because people were not satisfied with two, and wanted to use naming to denote an important relationship that one person had to another." Then you get into two middle names, etc. as "Uncle Ezra" continues. "The Roman name eventually consisted of three parts: Marcus Tullius Cicero, Gaius Julius Caesar. ... a person might acquire an individual surname, called an agnomen: Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus was so named because of his successful war in Africa." My middle name is "Lee" from the long standing (Southern US, although I am from the North) tradition of honoring General Robert E. Lee. If you need any clarification, feel free to ask. Search Strategy Google search on: "why middle names" ://www.google.com/search?q=%22why+middle+names%22 Google search on: "middle names" history ://www.google.com/search?q=%22middle+names%22+history Google search on: "middle names" tradition ://www.google.com/search?q=%22middle+names%22+tradition Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher |
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Denco wrote: Middle names actually started off being a second "first" name of honorific nature. Is it too late to change my middle name to Google? Anne is sooooo commonplace! Very, very interesting answer. I have cut and pasted it to an AOL message BB, and thousands besides Googling Answer Nuts will read it. Thanks for your extensive research, Yesmam |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
From: pinkfreud-ga on 17 May 2004 19:25 PDT |
My theory is that parents give their children middle names so that, when the child misbehaves, the parent can yell all three names in an accusatory fashion: "Harcourt Fenton Mudd, what have you been up to?" |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
From: tutuzdad-ga on 17 May 2004 19:40 PDT |
Or perhaps it's to drive the point home when one does something really well. ("Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor" - later to become "Elizabeth Alexandra Mary of the House of Windsor, Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other realms and territories, head of the Commonwealth of Nations" or simply "Queen Elizabeth II" for short) Dad |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
From: yesmam-ga on 17 May 2004 19:49 PDT |
"Harcourt Fenton Mudd That's sooooo creative. Kinda W.A.S.P.y I'm looking forward towards Harcourt becoming Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor's second husband.Harcourt would be a horsey type with a hobby of collecting antique telescopes. |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
From: probonopublico-ga on 17 May 2004 22:48 PDT |
I was only given a First and a Last Name even though my parents each had a Middle: Joseph Henry and Elizabeth Ann. Maybe they couldn't think of a suitable Middle for me. Both my daughters have Middle Names and we thought that we were being original in calling the younger 'Samantha Jane'. But 99.9% of all Samanthas now seem also to be a Jane. Maybe they just sound great together. In the UK, it became very fashionable to have double-barrelled surnames in the Thirties, preferably (but not always) hyphenated. This was sometimes required to benefit from an estate. Similarly, in Imperial Russia. So, the painter A N Roussoff (whose real name was Wolkoff) became Wolkoff-Mouromtzoff to satisify a condition for getting his hands on the huge Mouromtzoff estate. Of course, the Bolsheviks were not impressed by such niceties and grabbed the lot. |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
From: erkowit-ga on 18 May 2004 03:12 PDT |
In some countries, the notion of a "middle name" is a different one - culturally as well as legally. In Norway, a "middle name" is, by nature, a surname but not legally recognised as such for the person in question. Quite commonly, it could be the maiden name of the mother - nowawadys it is not uncommon that people upon marriage "exchange" names to establish a common family name, whereby the wife keeps her maiden name as a middle name, whilst the husband takes hers as his middle name. In this context, a second "first name" is simply that, a second first name. This might be because so many names in that part of the world are compsite, and still recognisable as such: "Thorbjörn" - put together from "Thor" (the norse god" and "björn" - bear; or "Solfrid" from Sol (sun) and Frid (peace). |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
From: ac67-ga on 18 May 2004 07:58 PDT |
Actually, Harcourt Fenton Mudd (more commonly known as Harry Mudd) was a character from an episode of the original Star Trek series, and his name was used in that scolding fashion not by his mother, but by an android replica of his wife. |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
From: pinkfreud-ga on 18 May 2004 20:13 PDT |
Aha! I figured it wouldn't be long before a Trekker showed up who recognized the name "Harcourt Fenton Mudd." And ac67 is quite correct: the hollering of this tripartite name was done by an android modeled after Harry Mudd's scary virago of a wife, not by Harry's mother. I admit having taken some liberties with Star Trek lore (or was it Star Trek data?) |
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Re: MIDDLE NAMES
From: denco-ga on 18 May 2004 21:06 PDT |
You are welcome, Yesmam! Thanks for the 5 stars and nice tip! Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher |
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