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Subject:
Speeding ticket -- NY State - Wasn't me -- Pls help
Category: Relationships and Society > Law Asked by: hifiguy-ga List Price: $15.00 |
Posted:
17 May 2004 23:02 PDT
Expires: 16 Jun 2004 23:02 PDT Question ID: 348045 |
Background: While riding my motorcycle back home from a local store, I was pulled over. Office stated that another officer got me on radar going 61 in a 30 on some road a few miles away. I informed the officer that I was not familiar with that road and that I knew the speed limit all over town is 30. He proceeded to ask for my license and returned back with a ticket very shortly. I asked if he was the one that saw me speeding, and he stated that he was not. He then proceeded to inform me that should go to court and that I should slow down. I informed him again that I was not speeding. It was month-end and I?m sure that I was just a victim of simple month-end ?write as many tickets as possible? event. Surely, I sent back my ticket with not guilty plea and requested a deposition from the officer. I just received the deposition and the officer (one who apparently got me speeding, not the one that pulled me over and wrote the ticket) stated that he saw a red motorcycle traveling fast and estimated the speed to be 60. K1 radar confirmed that it was 61. He continues to include my license plate number in the deposition. He could not have possibly seen the license plate for two reasons: 1. A motorcycles license plate is very small and traveling 61 it would be nearly impossible to read even from a few feet away, especially from the side of the road. 2. I was not on the road which he claims I was apparently speeding on. I had no idea where the road was and when I got home and looked at a map, I realized that I was not even riding on that road. Questions: 1. What to do? Aren?t there some kind of procedures that officers are supposed to follow? Like actually go after and pulling over a vehicle which you say was speeding? Also, isn?t the officer that pulled me over supposed to ask for license, registration, insurance, and inspection? He only asked for a license and came back with a ticket very fast. 2. The officer is obviously not being honest in his deposition. Could I bring some kind of charges against him? Perjury? 3. On a different note, is there anything that states that I am entitled to a public and timely trial? I know that I read something that in CA a trial needs to take place within 30 days. Is this the case in NY as well? If it?s been months, then what? Considering of course, that I was not the one delaying the trial date. I was thinking of hiring and attorney, but why should I waste money if the officer is obviously not being honest and I think that I have a pretty good case. I?m so mad that I?m now afraid to ride on the street and that should not be the case! I?ve been riding for over 10 years and never received a speeding ticket. Now this! What is this country coming to? (no need to answer this question, but please answer the above questions). Thank you in advance, HiFiGuy |
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Re: Speeding ticket -- NY State - Wasn't me -- Pls help
From: clowndevilboy-ga on 18 May 2004 08:59 PDT |
Classic case of "In the wrong place at the wrong time." I am unfamiliar with the New York justice system, however here in California, they give you a court date. At that date you have the opportunity to stand in front of the judge with the arresting/ticketing officer and plead your case. In your case ' not guilty ' Then the officer makes his statement and you make yours. The judge decides the case. If what you are saying is true, I think the judge will agree that there are more than 1 red motorcycle and you were the scape goat. I would not include the "month end quota" in your statement, but do print out this and take it with you so you have a reminder of exactly what happened that day. It can be rather intimidating standing in front of a judge and police officer. Worst comes to worse, you'll have to pay the fine and try to get traffic school. 30MPH over the speed limit is a very hefty sentence. Good Luck! -Ken |
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Re: Speeding ticket -- NY State - Wasn't me -- Pls help
From: jpsauro-ga on 18 May 2004 13:14 PDT |
Where in New York State were you? I had a similar experience in Upstate, just outside of Syracuse, NY. I got caught in a Speed Trap where the speed limit goes from 45 to 30 on a steep down-hill part of the road. Unless you slam on your breaks it will take a few hundred feet to slow down to 30. I got the same response as you did from the officer--go to court. I spoke with an Attorney as I had pictures and explanation etc. as you did. What the attorney told me turned out to be very helpful. The short answer is, you're not going to win because you prove the it wasnt you or that the officer was wrong. If you want I can give you the detailed strategy of what the attorney told me to do....and it worked. |
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Re: Speeding ticket -- NY State - Wasn't me -- Pls help
From: hifiguy-ga on 18 May 2004 13:48 PDT |
Hello jpsauro, It was near Middletown, NY. You say that I?m not going to win if I prove that I wasn?t there and/or the officer was wrong. I?m trying to understand why, but I?m a little lost. Any info that you would like to share would be greatly appreciated. At this point, I need all the help that I can get. If you are a researcher and will be posting an answer to my questions rather than just a comment, then I would also like answer to my actual questions above. Thank you, hifiguy |
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Re: Speeding ticket -- NY State - Wasn't me -- Pls help
From: invarilin-ga on 19 May 2004 14:22 PDT |
Questions: 1. What to do? Aren?t there some kind of procedures that officers are supposed to follow? Like actually go after and pulling over a vehicle which you say was speeding? Also, isn?t the officer that pulled me over supposed to ask for license, registration, insurance, and inspection? He only asked for a license and came back with a ticket very fast. Yes, he is supposed to ask for registration and proof of insurance as well. 2. The officer is obviously not being honest in his deposition. Could I bring some kind of charges against him? Perjury? No, the officer's statements are trusted by the court and area of jurisdiction. You also have no witnesses to prove the situation. 3. On a different note, is there anything that states that I am entitled to a public and timely trial? I know that I read something that in CA a trial needs to take place within 30 days. Is this the case in NY as well? If it?s been months, then what? Considering of course, that I was not the one delaying the trial date. Yes, you are entitled to a court date. You need to mark on the ticket that you want to attend a court date and return it to the appropriate place. The judge will do one of the following: A) you may get the ticket wiped completely from your record, especially if the officer doesn't show up to dispute the claim B) the judge cuts your fine in half and you ask for a deferrel which means that the ticket is held for a year. if you don't get a ticket in that year then no points go on your record. if you do however, both tickets go on your record. good luck! HTH Brian |
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Re: Speeding ticket -- NY State - Wasn't me -- Pls help
From: railrodder-ga on 24 May 2004 10:21 PDT |
Some jurisdictions may let you plead down to another offence with the same fine but no points. You probably need a lawyer, tho you could try calling the court and asking outright about this. This is going to cost you a few hundred $, but avoiding the ticket, points, and insurance increase is worth it. |
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Re: Speeding ticket -- NY State - Wasn't me -- Pls help
From: byrd-ga on 24 May 2004 12:38 PDT |
Have you already agreed to a bench (judge only) trial? If not, or even if you have, see if you can change, and request a jury trial, WITH a court reporter. Here in Texas, you're allowed that choice, and I used it to beat a bogus ticket a couple of years ago. It'll cost you a lot in terms of inconvenience. In my case, it meant three trips to court, followed by three delays/continuances, since they only hear 1 jury trial per day - you keep getting pushed down the queue. However, it also costs the court and the officer involved a lot of inconvenience, not to mention costs that will likely exceed the profit from any fine(s). My ticket was dismissed on the 4th go-round, and I was almost disappointed, since I'd have loved seeing that officer squirm as he explained himself to a jury. But anyway, good luck, stick to your guns and don't let 'em get you if you're in the right! As we all know, officers are NOT always right and not always good or truthful, no matter how much they pretend. Cheers, Byrd-ga (a fellow biker) |
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