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Subject: europian painter-Emil Brack
Category: Arts and Entertainment
Asked by: beagle6750-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 21 May 2004 11:52 PDT
Expires: 20 Jun 2004 11:52 PDT
Question ID: 350039
I believe he painted two pictures with the same theme. 1-"The
proposal" showing a man leaning toward his intended. 2-"The Ring"
showing him putting the ring on her finger. I have "The proposal" and
am wondering what the value would be 1- in auction,2-for insurance
purpose.

Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 21 May 2004 17:24 PDT
If you don't mind, beagle6750-ga, a few questions, please.

- Is the piece signed?
- Is the piece dated?
- The size of the piece?
- Is there any kind of provenance, and if so, in what form?

All of the above affects value so it might help Researchers to know.

Thanks!  denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

Clarification of Question by beagle6750-ga on 24 May 2004 12:47 PDT
This is for denco-ga Re Emil Brack
    It is signed.
    It is not dated.
    The size is 35" x 27 1/2"
    Provenance: No. But it may have been purchased in Boston, Mass in
the 1920's or 30's. It has been in my family for that length of time.
    The man is sitting to the girls left and is holding her left hand.
I have heard there is a companion painting where he is placing the
ring on her finger,  in the same setting.  Good Luck!!

Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 02 Jun 2004 11:16 PDT
Howdy beagle6750-ga,

Greatly appreciate your patience with this.  I have been in correspondence
with an auction house that recently sold a painting by Brack.

There are two things I would appreciate, if possible.

If you could go the following web page and see if the signature and style
of painting matches yours please.
http://www.auction-bergmann.de/ger/detail.asp?historyback=true&searchfield=T3_CatNo&nachverkauf=&searchstring=1132&nextrec=0&T1_ID=73&T2_ID=7309&T3_ID=169835

If you could post some pictures of the painting, then the auction house
could review them, and might be able to provide more information.  Some
free services to use are:

Yahoo has one such service.
http://photos.yahoo.com/

Be sure to set the pictures to be publicly viewable.  Once done, place
a link here to your picture please.

There is also Photobucket.
http://www.photobucket.com/

Thanks!  denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 02 Jun 2004 11:20 PDT
Howdy beagle6750-ga,

Alternatively, I could post the information (auction price of the piece
I found, along with an insurance estimate, etc.) for the recent auction
that I found, along with the auction house contact information, and you
can pursue sending images, etc. to them for possibly more information.

The auction house seems relatively interested in your piece, but there
are always authenticity and condition issues, etc.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

Clarification of Question by beagle6750-ga on 03 Jun 2004 12:43 PDT
hello denco-ga
   the signature is the same, and the living room or sitting room is
similar. The two people are dressed the same.  I can not send picture
as I do not have that capability. You do have the size of my painting?
can you send me a translation of the German discription sent along
with your photo?

Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 03 Jun 2004 14:47 PDT
Howdy beagle6750-ga,

Keep in mind that the example I provided is not the piece that recently sold
at auction.  The size you gave of 35" x 27 1/2" is quite a bit bigger than
the one pictured on the page I provided.

Courtesy of the Google translation function, here is a rough translation.
http://translate.google.com/

"Brack Emil.  - 1905 Munich 'recent pair in the civil Interieuer' water color,
42x56 cm (16 1/2 x 22 1/4 in) marks 1860 Naumburg vitreous original framework,
oak substantial, literature: Saur, Thieme Becker, resident of Munich painter
in the 19.  Jahrhundert Brack studied pupils of Paul Thumann, Otto Knille,
Ernst Hildebrand and Wilhelm von Lindenschmit at the citizens of Berlin and
residents of Munich academy, d.J., afterwards he studied to the Académie Julian
in Paris, since 1890 painted Interieurs in precise rendition in Munich
resident, it and, placed category pictures Gesellschafts-und of family life in
the resident of Munich glass palace out was annual also on different citizen of
Berlin exhibitions represented."

It might be well worth to either buy an inexpensive digital camera, or see if
a friend could take some digital images, as the piece you have, might, under
the right conditions, be worth a bit of money.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

Clarification of Question by beagle6750-ga on 05 Jun 2004 08:46 PDT
to: denco ga
    I think I can get a picture for you. I have a freind with a
digital camera and computor capability to send photo.  So hang in
there and you may have it in a couple of days. Thanks for your
patience.

Clarification of Question by beagle6750-ga on 10 Jun 2004 13:07 PDT
Hello denco ga
      There are pictures of my painting along with a shot of Emil
Brack's signature posted on "photobucket" Do hope you can pick it up
and will help you on your research.??

Request for Question Clarification by denco-ga on 14 Jun 2004 12:07 PDT
Much thanks beagle6750-ga!

I have forwarded the URL to the images to the auction house contact
and am awaiting a response.  Greatly appreciate your patience.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher
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Subject: Re: europian painter-Emil Brack
From: minot-ga on 09 Jun 2004 19:43 PDT
 
digital photos of Brack painting and signature on painting can be seen
in album, denco-ga at http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v290/minotgm
Subject: Re: europian painter-Emil Brack
From: beagle6750-ga on 29 Jun 2004 10:43 PDT
 
denco-ga
    Haven't heard from you in quite awhile, and am wondering what
success you are having getting an estimate on my emil brack painting.
Regards; beagle6750
Subject: Re: europian painter-Emil Brack
From: denco-ga on 29 Jun 2004 16:20 PDT
 
Howdy beagle6750-ga,

I have not heard back from my auction house contact.  I will email them
again and see if I can get a status check.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher
Subject: Re: europian painter-Emil Brack
From: denco-ga on 01 Jul 2004 09:48 PDT
 
Howdy beagle6750-ga,

I have heard back from my auction house contact, but need to know how you want
to proceed from this point.  I do think you will find this to be good news.

At auction, your painting might be worth a mid-5-figure number.  I do have a
specific dollar range, but the painting would have to travel to Europe for it
to obtain that kind of sales price.

If you want, you could repost the question, please specifying it to be for
denco-ga.  Also, it would help to know (for the auction house) if you are
interested in auctioning your Brack painting.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher
Subject: Re: europian painter-Emil Brack
From: beagle6750-ga on 03 Jul 2004 12:24 PDT
 
Hello denco ga
    Thank you for info. I have no intention of sending my painting to
europe for an appraisal or for auction.  I am interested to know the
value for insurance or what it might sell for in auction in the usa.
does mid five figures mean $50,000+??
Subject: Re: europian painter-Emil Brack
From: denco-ga on 03 Jul 2004 21:10 PDT
 
Howdy beagle6750-ga,

I have found out the following information; the auction estimate for your
painting if it were to be auctioned in the place to give you the best return.
The location for that would not be in the U.S., but would be in Europe instead.
In the U.S., the value at auction would appear to be substantially less than
that estimate.

It is remarkable that I was able to acquire the estimate without payments for
appraisals, etc.  It is doubtful that such information could be obtained on a
estimate for a U.S. auction under similar terms.

Based on that European auction estimate, I could also provide a educated guess
at a range of valuation for insurance as well.

If the above information would be of value to you, and as the question here has
expired, you could post a new question requesting said information, if desired.

Looking Forward, denco-ga - Google Answers Researcher

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