trying to access site EnoPLace.com   a.k.a Eno Pharmacy or enopharmacy.com;
site/url seems to be dead; how do I search for this site using
alternate urls (actually, how do I locate the company if it still
exists)??? I have tried multipule search engines (circa 20) & all come
up dead, save Alexa- which lists a link to the site but site cannot be
accessed-dead url??? HELP!!!
And thanks for your time & services!!!

Sincerely,

houssels@hotmail.com or kellyhoussels@yahoo.com

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Request for Question Clarification by bobbie7-ga on 21 May 2004 15:57 PDT

Hi k1tok626akamozart!

Please try the following URLs. They both work for me.

http://enoplace.com/

http://www.enoplace.com/

Are you able to access the website with these links?

Thanks,
Bobbie7

I had no difficulty accessing the site with the links that Bobbie posted above.

Hi there,

I was also able to access both of those links without any problems -
you may be having difficulties due to your ISP blocking a certain
group of websites.

answerguru-ga

At first I had no trouble accessing the site.  However, I placed an
order with them on July 8th, and as of August 6th(2004) have not
received my order. Additionally,  I was able to have a chat with their
"online help-desk" about the status of my order,  This was August 1st,
 I was assured that everything was ok and that I would receive my
order later this week which is now over.  I am of the opinion that the
Eno Pharmacy, is an extremely elaborate scam which collected quite a
bit of sensitive information from me and possibly infected my computer
with spyware/backdoor software.  For the last 3 days the website has
been "offline".  Actually it seems that they have completely
disappeared from the internet without a trace.  I guess the name
enoplace.com
"E-No Place dot Com" should have been an early tip off.  Also ALL
other online prescription drug consultation sites require photo ID and
proof of recent medical examination.  Enoplace seemed like a better
solution for me with less hassle.  My credit card has not yet been
charged.  After reading the 9/11 report section on identity theft I
have become concerned that the only prescription written was one by me
for someone else to use my credit card freely as though they were me. 
I'm very angry about it and not exactly sure what to do.

I also placed an order with this so-called company and it was supposed
to ship on July 19th and I have heard nor recieved anything from them.
 Also I can no longer reach them on their website.  I truly think I've
been scammed and I don't know what to do about it.  If anyone can
help, please let me know.

After some careful study and some searching around with InterNIC and
ARIN WHOIS, I have determined that enoplace.com does not exist and has
never really existed.  This site is part of a worm/Trojan Backdoor
that provides it's own dns server on your machine.  It lives /is
stored in your temporary internet files folder. How does this work? In
lay terms as best as I can desribe it here is the entire scenario
(possible consipiracy theory)
Initially victims are solicited via email that they can now purchase
prescription drugs conveniently and privately online, delivered to
their front doors.  When you clicked on the link in the message your
browser did not "go" to their website, but instead downloaded a worm
onto your machine. Once in place and initialized, the worm created the
html files that appear to be the site.  When these files are placed in
your temporary internet folder they appear as web pages in your
browser.  This worm provides an http "Hyper-Text Transfer Protocol"
server and a dns "Domain Name Server" to your browser.  Creating the
URL "http://www.enoplace.com/" in your browser address bar.  The web
browser stupidly displays this faux site to you and that's where the
real hanky panky begins.  Of course they have all the stuff people
want but can't get without a doctors prescription.  Victims then fill
out an elaborate questionnaire and submit a substantial amount of
sensitive personal information. Then You make the purchase.  You check
back to the site. Still comes up. Your status goes from pending "which
means they haven't validated your credit card information yet" to
"Approved" meaning that they have validated your credit card
information.  No further activity or status changes occur.  They have
what they want.  There is someone who occasionally mans an online chat
room which is another simple use of TCP Client/Server Trickery. They
tell you that everything is alright and they have been experiencing
some difficulties with their website.  Finally Windows comes along and
runs disk cleanup or you otherwise manually delete your temporary
internet files - Boom! Enoplace.com suddenly really is noplace.com. 
Call your credit card company and inform them immediately to protect
yourself from possible fraudulent credit card charges.  I am fairly
certain the scenario is close to what I'm describing.  Take Heed!

I challenge the entire internet for anyone to come forward and say
they have had a successful experience with enoplace.com.  Victims
watch their credit cards for the amount of their purchase charged, not
small insignificant charges of say 2.83 for "Internet Fees"  or
something else silly like that.  Of course they aren't going to be so
bold as to charge the amount of your purchase. They don't need to
because they have what they need to make purchases and cash advances
as you. They are skimming it a little at a time from an untold vast
multitude of victims.  It is means such as this that fund terrorists
living in the United States(according to the Homeland Security 9/11
Report).

Is this really possible
YOU BET YOUR SWEET BIPPIE IT IS!

I am a network administrator and I regularly challenge network
security systems where I work.  I use means such as I've described to
try to compromise my company network. Nothing nearly so elaborate but
everything I've described is certainly possible and certainly very
lucrative to the authors of the software.

I want to say hi to stein_il-ga for her response.  You were so
informative because I don't nearly have the knowledge that you do
about computers, or who to contact about anything.  I'm 56 years old
and have no experience with computers at all, I just bought this
computer about three months ago and I am not familiar with the
termonology, but after reading your comments, I definitely have been
scammed and it scares me to death.  'with the experience and knowledge
you have is there anything we can do about it, if so please let me
know.  The prescription I ordered was for amoxicillin for my chronic
diverticulitis and they charged me $178.00, which to me is a lot of
money.  Can they just get away from this, or can we do something so
this doesn't happen to anyone else.  Waiting to hear from you or
anyone else has had this problem.

i also ordered some meds from enoplace.com.  the "online customer
service" person...maggy... kept telling me that my order should arrive
any day now. my card was charged on 7/8/04. it has now been 4 weeks
and still nothing arrived. I thought it was kind of stramge that they
were unable to give me a tracking number.. they also said that the
meds were shipped from holland, so the transit time may be longer due
to us costoms procedures. anyway, i let my credit card compy klnow
about this scam, and they refunded the $246 to my credit card. I also
changed my credit card number just to be sure that these f*ckers are
not able to charge up my card on onything else.

I have presented my "evidence" to the FBI.  Hopefully they will be
able to catch this insidious scourge.  If Mr. Eno is out there
reading.....
Your world is getting smaller! Watch out.... If you have it, try
downloading your original email that informed you of enoplace.com in
the first place.  Maybe the site will come back online. I haven't been
able to try this myself. As far as a refund goes.... Your card will
never be billed the amount of your purchase. Typically, the person who
uses enoplace.com has some experience with internet ordering. 
Usually, it is a pretty safe proposition. The typical victim carries
somewhat of a balance already on the card from month to month.  The
typical victim also knows what they are going to pay against that
balance. The user does not scrutinize every cent of their bill.  This
allows the thief to slip into your pocket unnoticed and take just a
tiny little bit. From each victim.  After all the victim has furnished
the criminal with everything they need to reach in there any time they
want.  They won't risk maxing out one particular individual, that
would most likely be immediately noticeable.  What we are dealing with
here is way slicker than that.....You should report this to your local
law enforcement immediately.  The crooks figure chances are that since
you are looking for illegally dispensed prescription medication that
you won't risk violating your own privacy by coming forward for fear
of wrongdoing on your part.  Trust me,  the authorities are way more
concerned with catching the perpetrator(s) than catching you the
victim(someone who is simply trying to treat a particular condition
without huge doctor costs).
HAVE NO FEAR! The more complaints the FBI recieves, the better.  This
ultimately could be a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY.  Read the 9/11
Report sections on Identity Theft.  The 9/11 report is available
online. Simply type 9/11 Report in your favorite search engine.  Read
up. In the future, be more careful of who you give your information
to.  Everyone with any power knows that information is the source of
power. These extremist terrorists that keep plotting attacks are using
methods such as I've previously described to "earn a living" while
they are living in the US, plotting their next act of subterfuge. 
Also, there does actually exist the possibility that enoplace.com is
simply a fly by night upstart internet company that has gone belly up.
(highly unlikely).

i really think you are making this out to be something much bigger
than it is. My card WAS charged the full amount that was quoted to me.
no that the money has been refunded, and the accpunt number on the
card changed, i have nothing more to worry about. yes, they do know my
address and birthdate, but they really do not have enough to stealy my
identity...  You have internalized this situation to suit your warped
conspiracy theory... just chill out and accept the fact that you got
scammed..just like the rest of us on here.

My assessment of the situation may not be correct but I assure you
it's not warped.  Don't be so naive, or somebody will get you again.

has anyone else ran into an issue with www.enoplce.com, or has anyone
even had a sucessfull transaction completed with them? (meaning your
received the product as described by enoplace?...just curious...

 stein_il-ga... I was wondering what next steps you think we can take
to try and find out where this scam is based out of
(city/state/country)....even though i have already been refunded my
money from my credit card company...I would like nothing more that to
show up on the doorsterp of this "business" and beat that crap out of
them (im sure others would like to be there as well.)

Well Belchy now you're starting to speak my language.  The first steps
to triangulating them is tracing the soliciting email message back to
it's source.  This will probably be difficult since all addresses in
the message are probably spoofed.  You should report this to your ISP.
 If you still have them, forward any emails that you received from
enoplace.com to your ISP's Support Staff.  Be sure to describe your
experience to them.  Perhaps it might even help to call them.  Also
inform local law enforcement in your area.  The government has ways
above and beyond your ISP for tracing the origins of the message. 
After all they caught the Sasser worm kid in Germany.  Although it's
possible to make a computer do anything chances are, there are bugs in
the enoplace system,  something which will help it reveal itself. 
Other than that,  there's not much we can do except hope that these
guys do something stupid and get themselves caught.  I like your new
attitude about it though!

And to hell with just beating the crap out of them,  I'd like to scam
them out of all their money!!!!

I too placed an order for meds at enoplace.com around 6-18-04. When I
checked the status of the order, I was informed there would be a delay
due to the ordering system being upgraded. They even asked if I wanted
to cancel because of the delay, I should have taken them up on the
offer! About a week later my order was approved and I was informed my
order shipped on 7-2-04. My credit card was charged $216.00 on 7-7-04.
About two weeks later I began sending messages to them concerning the
"lost" order. My messages increased in anger and frequency over the
next week but I never received any response. Then around the end of
July the web site vanished, never to be seen again! When you call the
phone number 1-888-384-3119 you now get a message saying the mail box
is full. When you send a fax 1-818-206-3357 you now get a busy signal.
I have contacted my credit card company to dispute the charge and I
hope I will get a refund. I have also requested a new card. What a
scam!!!!

Guess what guys????
Enoplace.com is back on line!!!!!
Imagine that.

http://www.enoplace.com

Maybe they are a real company with real information system problems. 
That does happen a lot.  However, I'm not going to get my hopes up.

They are also going by Pharma-preferred.com and also have a  "Maggie"
on live chat.  I got ripped off as well. But the assholes are still
taking orders.  The best thing to do is to look online for other drug
companies that have live chat and see if you can find the person using
the name maggie again.  I skip traced the live person url as best as I
could and all I could come up with is that the internet provider was
based in CA as well as the user.  I will find them and take it out of
someones hide if I can.  God I hate getting ripped off.

If everyone keeps sending "maggie" messages we could get results.  I
am hoping to piss someone off enough to call the cops on me.  If
someone files a complaint against me at least I will know who to go
after to get my money back.  Right now they are a ghost companies
taking money and leaving no way to find them.  I work as a skip tracer
so when I find them I will post address and phone numbers, company and
private.