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Subject: mac/pc networking/filesharing question
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: gmoney111-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 23 May 2004 08:13 PDT
Expires: 22 Jun 2004 08:13 PDT
Question ID: 350714
I have a PC running XP and a Mac Powerbook G4 running OSX. They are
connected to a cable modem via a basic Netgear router. I would like to
share files. It is my understanding that I can do this by simply
configuring both machines properly, but I cant figure it out--please
provide clear, detailed instructions--for example, assume the folder
on the PC that I want to share from is called Share1.  Thanks

Request for Question Clarification by livioflores-ga on 23 May 2004 08:23 PDT
Do you accept answers that involve connections like Ethernet ports or others?
The connection via Ethernet ports is very easy and cheap.

Clarification of Question by gmoney111-ga on 23 May 2004 14:18 PDT
Im not sure what you mean

Request for Question Clarification by livioflores-ga on 23 May 2004 15:40 PDT
What I need to know is in what way your computers can be connected.
Ethernet ports are common in the last models of computers. See the
following images to see if you can identify this feature in your
computers:
http://images.google.com.ar/images?q=ethernet&hl=es&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=0&sa=N

According to Apple specifications a Mac Powerbook G4 has an Ethernet
port installed:
"Gigabit Ethernet comes built into the 17-inch and 15-inch models
(10/100 Ethernet on the 12-inch model)..."
http://www.apple.com/powerbook/


Regarding your WinXP PC I think that it must have it, but need a
confirmation, if you can confirm this for me it will be helpfull.

Regards.
livioflores-ga

Clarification of Question by gmoney111-ga on 23 May 2004 16:49 PDT
yes I am using ethernet connections

Request for Question Clarification by livioflores-ga on 23 May 2004 19:57 PDT
To complete the answer, I need to know what model of Netgear router
are you using and if both computers are connected to the router via
Ethernet connections or other (USB, etc.).
I have the answer for the case in wich both computers are connected
directly with a crossover cable (Ethernet), in other words the Mac and
the PC are linked directly by a single cable connected to the Ethernet
ports of each computer. If this last situation is enough good for you
I will post the answer that I have at this point, if you want to use
the router for the file sharing I need to continue the research.

Regards.
livioflores-ga

Clarification of Question by gmoney111-ga on 24 May 2004 05:06 PDT
each computer is connected to the router via its own ethernet cable. I
am using a basic netgear router--I think it costs like $99--the lowest
model?
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Subject: Re: mac/pc networking/filesharing question
Answered By: livioflores-ga on 24 May 2004 09:31 PDT
 
Hi gmoney111!!


First of all download the following document, it is in pdf format and
you can read it using the Acrobat Reader:
"Sharing files between a Mac and a PC connected with a crossover
cable":
With this document you will learn to configure your computers to share
files between them.
http://pdf.euro.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/applepdf.woa/wa/document?country=uk&pn=macpc_cab

You can download the Acrobat Reader from this page:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html


Note that this tutorial is designed for two computers connected
directly through a crossover cable (Ethernet cable).
Continuing the research I found two documents at the Apple Support
pages that lead me to believe that your router can act as the
crossover cable of the above document. These two documents are:
"Networking with a Windows PC":
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=19652

and
"Creating a small Ethernet network":
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106658

In the first one you can read the following:
"There are several ways to connect (a Mac) to a Windows PC. First, you
must physically connect the two computers to a network..."
And in the second document you find that a "Router with shared
Internet connection" is one of such possible physical connection or
network.
Then I conclude that your router can act as the crossover cable, this
means that the instructions given in the "Sharing files between a Mac
and a PC connected with a crossover cable" document are useful in your
case. In the worst case you must need to buy a Hub (this device must
be used to connect the computers and the router). You can buy a
Netgear Hub (only if necessary) from $23.53 to $31.95:
http://www.mysimon.com/NETGEAR_EN104TP_Hub/4014-3261_8-128936.html


Finally I will give you some additional sources that may help you in
the case of any trouble appears:
"Mac OS X 10.1 or later: How to Connect to Windows File Sharing (SMB)":
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106471

"Setting up Windows File Sharing in Mac OS X":
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107083

"Mac & PC Tutorials":
Tutorials designed to provide step-by-step instructions on how to
accomplish some common integration tasks in a cross-platform context.
http://www.apple.com/uk/smallbusiness/mac_pc/tutorials.html

"MacWindows Tutorials - Cross-Platform Network Basics":
Part 1:
http://www.macwindows.com/netbasic.html
Part 2:
http://www.macwindows.com/netbasc2.html

"MacWindows Network Solutions - Cross-Platform Networking Products":
http://www.macwindows.com/Network.html

"Networking between Mac and Windows":
http://alamopc.org/pcalamode/features/F20030205.shtml

"Search Results page for "How to Create a Small Ethernet Network"" at
Apple support:
http://search.info.apple.com/?search=Go&lr=lang_en&kword=&q=How%20to%20Create%20a%20Small%20Ethernet%20Network



I hope this helps you; and please don't consider this answer ended
until you think that it fits your needs, so feel free to request for
further assistance if you need it using the request for an answer
clarification feature before rate my answer. Also let me know how this
answer works, your feedback is a valuable tool for giving a better
service to you.


Best regards.
livioflores-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by gmoney111-ga on 26 May 2004 17:10 PDT
I worked thru the first pdf doc, and the problem is, when i get to
configuring the PC, I put in the IP and Sub #s I got from the Mac
configuring and it says something like "these are already in use" and
then my Internet connection dies. So I reset everything.  I tried to
follow the instructions in the first suggested doc, but it says start
with clicking on Finder then GO, but my finder doesnt have a Go... on
it. So its not working.

Clarification of Answer by livioflores-ga on 26 May 2004 21:56 PDT
Hi!!

I am so sorry that the first way (the crossover one) does not work.
I think that the problem is in the IP numbers asigned, may be they are
in conflict with the IP numbers asigned by the router, if you have
these last IP numbers (the ones asigned by the router) try to use
them.

After reading your request of clarification and the document that you
tried to use as a second option I think that you are misundertanding
the text. The steps to follow are:
1  Click the Finder icon in the Dock. 
2  Choose Connect to Server from the Go menu.
You can translate this as:
1  Open Connect to Server from the Go menu.
Look at the pdf document under the paragraph "Step 4: Connecting to
the shared resources from the Macintosh" the keys combination to do
that.

Now I think that you can continue trying with this method.

The following doc may give you some help.

I will continue the research on how to do this task for you, please
keep me updated about the results of this clarification.

Thank you.
livioflores-ga

Clarification of Answer by livioflores-ga on 26 May 2004 21:58 PDT
Where is my head??!!

I forgot to post the link of the (possible) helpful doc:
"Mac OS X 10.2: Expected, User-Defined Windows (SMB) Computer Name
Does Not Appear in Connect to Server Dialog":
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107085

Regards.
livioflores-ga

Clarification of Answer by livioflores-ga on 27 May 2004 06:15 PDT
Hi !!

Please read the following articles from Netgear support, they may help you:
"Sharing Macintosh Files with a PC":
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101170.asp

"Sharing PC Files With a Macintosh":
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101169.asp

"Macintoshes and the RP614 Router Gateway":
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101174.asp

Search also in this Search page:
(try with the following keywords:  pc os network  or pc os configuration)
http://kbserver.netgear.com/main.asp

Hope this helps.
Regards.
livioflores-ga
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