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Subject: NOKIA 9500
Category: Computers > Wireless and Mobile
Asked by: albaghli-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 24 May 2004 13:47 PDT
Expires: 23 Jun 2004 13:47 PDT
Question ID: 351316
I want to buy 50Pcs nokia 9500,,,,
i saw many people sale this item in ebay,,,,
is that true?
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Subject: Re: NOKIA 9500
Answered By: sublime1-ga on 24 May 2004 15:09 PDT
 
albaghli...

You seem to be asking, "Is it true that people are selling
the Nokia 9500 on Ebay?" Since you note that you "saw many
people selling this item on ebay", it would seem that you
already know it is true that the phones are being sold there.

Therefore, I can only assume you are essentially asking
"Is this for real? Are the prices to be believed and the
 sellers trusted?"

In short, yes. You can examine the reliability of the seller
by the number of ratings they have displayed on the sale page,
along with the % of positive ratings. You should also be
careful to read all the terms of the sale, in which case
you will see that the value of the current bid, especially
on a new posting, does not reflect what the item will finally
sell for.

Searching Ebay for NOKIA 9500 produces this page of auctions:
http://search.ebay.com/nokia-9500_W0QQfromZR8QQsokeywordredirectZ1

For example, on the following page, angel-us21 has 188
instances of feedback, which are 98% positive, so you can
be reasonably confident they are trustworthy. The initial
bid is 3 GBP, or about US $5.36. The seller sets the initial
bid, and there have been 0 additional bids. It is a 3-day
auction, and it is half over. Notice that they have titled
the auction 'Nokia 9500 Best Cellphone!!!Only 250 EURO/piece',
which means they have probably set up a 'reserve' or the 
minimum bid which will result in a sale, and set it at
250 EURO, so the phone will not be sold for less. Also,
by specifying 250 EURO/piece, it seems clear that they have
more than one phone available. The seller in this case has
asked you not to use the link to "Ask seller a question",
and has provided their email address on the page. If you
look closely at the email address when you mouse over it,
you will see that it is malformed, so you can't just click
the link to the email address, or it will be incorrect. You
will have to remove the : which has erroneously been included
at the beginning of the name in the email address. You could
email the seller and ask if they have as many as 50 phones
for sale. You might even work out a bulk price by buying in
that quantity:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2234&item=6900500300&rd=1


In another auction, ace_te is selling 'New Nokia 9500 NEVER
USED' with a 'Buy It Now' price of only $13. If you read the
page, they are actually not selling the phone itself, but 
information on how to obtain the phone, worth $500, for about
$40. The feedback indicates 29 ratings at 100% positive.
This seems good, and you can also review the ratings here:
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=ace_te

You will notice that one reviewer says "good information",
which makes it seem likely that this customer bought the 
'secret' on how to obtain the phone cheaply, and was happy
with the information he obtained. As to whether this same
information would satisfy your interest in obtaining 50 pcs,
I can't say, but you could always contact the seller, by
clicking on the link which says "Ask seller a question".
The auction page is here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64355&item=5701428264&rd=1



On yet another auction, bignob8ins, who also set a 'reserve'
has had that reserve met, and the current bid on the phone
is GBP 650.00, or approximately US $1,162.01. They have only
1 instance of feedback, which was 100% positive. This is no
doubt a higher price than you want to pay, but it gives a
good indication of what some people are willing to pay for 
this particular phone.

I hope I have understood the point of your question correctly,
and have provided you all you need to pursue this purchase
effectively on Ebay.


Please do not rate this answer until you are satisfied that  
the answer cannot be improved upon by way of a dialog  
established through the "Request for Clarification" process. 
 
A user's guide on this topic is on skermit-ga's site, here: 
http://www.christopherwu.net/google_answers/answer_guide.html#how_clarify 
 
sublime1-ga
Comments  
Subject: Re: NOKIA 9500
From: pinkfreud-ga on 24 May 2004 13:49 PDT
 
This is a duplicate question:

http://www.answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=351314
Subject: Nokia 9500
From: albaghli-ga on 24 May 2004 17:43 PDT
 
From where they buy these  mobile?,,
Nokia Co. said It will be in market 4Q-2004=september-2004.

tell me from where i can buy this mobile in Euorp,i will travel to it.
I dont want order fromwebsite,i want to buy from the seller directly
I know  2guy bought from ebay they didnt recive anything since march.

i will travel to any country you say to me they have.

Note:put your amount for that answer 

thanx
Subject: Re: NOKIA 9500
From: weaselbuddha-ga on 20 Jul 2004 12:18 PDT
 
I too have been searching for the mythical 9500, and have been
pummeled by scammers in, or using IP's in Romania.

As to trusting history, one I had high hopes for, because of the bid
was just cancelled with this message:

Please be aware that auction:5710780664 -Nokia 9500 Communicator -
Nokia 6230 has been ended early and your bid has been cancelled. 
Please note that we have recently ended all listings for the seller
bosbeckas it appears the account has been compromised and used by an
unauthorized third party. The seller's privileges to trade on eBay may
be temporarily suspended while we investigate this matter further.
Subject: Re: NOKIA 9500
From: sublime1-ga on 20 Jul 2004 13:09 PDT
 
albaghli...

I just now noticed your comment of 24 May, due to weaselbuddha's
comment bringing your question to the top of my list of answered
questions. Your original comment, having been made the same day 
as my answer, went unnoticed, since the question was already at
the top on that day, and researchers are not notified of new
comments.

Had you posted your remarks in a Request for Clarification, the
question would have been flagged for my attention. 

Your comment poses a different question than the one I answered,
and had that been in the original question, I wouldn't have
attempted to answer it, since I just don't know the answer.

I know that some people who sell on eBay have access to lower
prices on new items because they have an 'in' with the company,
and are able to buy them at a discount. A former neighbor, e.g.
worked for Macintosh, and could get a significant discount on
laptops. Also, my understanding is that some companies almost
give away new products to employees for the sake of receiving
feedback on how well they function.

I don't know if this might be the case with the Nokia 9500, or,
if it is, as weaselbuddha suggested, a scam being perpetrated
by Romanian fraud artists.

Your best bet might be to post a new question so that the whole
pool of researchers will have access to it. This one, being an
answered question, is not visible to them unless they look for
it.

sublime1-ga
Subject: Re: NOKIA 9500
From: nicnitro-ga on 22 Sep 2004 09:50 PDT
 
ALL EBAY Nokia 9500 sales are hacked accounts. ALL.
Nokia has not even released this phone for sale to the public.
Subject: Re: NOKIA 9500
From: tomsol-ga on 20 Oct 2004 21:26 PDT
 
Yes sure. Buying Nokia 9500 thru EBAY is making donation to Romania or
even Italy. I spend almost $ 500 and never received that phone.
Somebody is probably laughing on my addres. Prices around $ 200 - $
300 are not true. Price for new Nokia 9500 in the stores is around $
1000. Good Luck for buying Nokia 9500 for $ 200.
Subject: Re: NOKIA 9500
From: azooza-ga on 22 Oct 2004 00:19 PDT
 
You can see some investigations into these Nokia 9500 fraud scams here:

http://www.9500communicator.com/forum/thread9.html

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