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Subject: what school do i pick?
Category: Reference, Education and News > Education
Asked by: blossom834-ga
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Posted: 24 May 2004 21:19 PDT
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Question ID: 351490
I have been admitted into the MSW program at Columbia, Boston College
and Fordham, while I am pretty much down to picking between BC and
CU...I can not figure out which one to pick. Does it make a difference
that COlumbia is higher ranked? What should I be looking for? do you
have extensive information on these schools and which one would be the
better choice?
Thank you!

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Clarification of Question by blossom834-ga on 25 May 2004 07:34 PDT
I am torn between schools because of which one is the better social
work school. I think it is more important than a coin toss, because if
Columbia has such a better reputation it will put me higher on the job
market also. Yet, Boston College has a great reputation and has a
twist of International classes with the program that Columbia doesnt
have, but at Columbia you can minor in Law, which is also good. I am
curious to know what the actual better school is and what is the
better choice.
Answer  
Subject: Re: what school do i pick?
Answered By: politicalguru-ga on 26 May 2004 04:26 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Dear Blossom, 

Choosing a school is a question that every graduate school applicant
is facing. There are many elements, some mentioned before - either by
the commentators or by yourself - and some not mentioned, that should
impact your final decision. I think that ranking and employability,
whom you mentioned, don't make such a difference at the end:

Ranking
=======
Ranking is based in several elements, not all migh be important to
you. For example, you have to decide, whether the level of research of
the faculty, or the number of their cited publications, is important
to you or not. If you're planning on continuing later in life to a PhD
programme, this might be very important. If you're more interested in
having an MSW and finding a work as a social worker, you might want to
look more carefully on how teaching is rated, and not the institution
in general.

Regarding the Gourman Report ranking MSW programmes, there is also
criticism on its methodology (or lack of transparency in that regard):
Caveat Emptor: The Gourman Report
<http://siop.org/tip/backissues/TIPJan02/07bedeian.htm> 


Funding Opportunities
=====================
A very important aspect in choosing a grad school. Where do you have
more opportunities to get a job in the department? Where would you get
full (or more) funding for the programme?

If both answers, for both questions, are negative, this means that
you'll have to fund yourself somehow throughout the programme. Then,
questions might be:

- What programme is more flexible, in case you have to work? What
programme is more convinient for students with other obligations
(work/baby/etc.).

- In which of the two cities you are more likely to find a job? 

- Where wuld you (if you want to) get affordable dorms? How is the
rent in both areas? (murder, I am telling you in advance).


Employability
=============
Is also an important question. It is true, that peceived ranking might
impact employability, but in case of two schools that are highly
ranked, I am not sure that it is that important. What might be
important is the type of jobs you see yourself doing in the future,
and the type of preferred subjects taken for these jobs. You said you
are attracted to the law programme in Columbia, and to the
international one in BU. Ask yourself - why are you attracted to thsoe
programmes?

- Is it because you want to combine legal knowledge with your future work? 
- Is it because you want to work in a multi-cultural environment,
maybe in an international organisation?
- Is it because you think it would look good on your CV? 


Cultural and Social Considerations
==================================
Boston and New York are of course not similar, but both provide
general cultural and social opportunities. However, there are again,
questions you must ask yourself:
- Where are people that you know? That could help you get along? 
- Where is the programme more socially integrated (in the sense that
there is some thought also on the social lives of the students)?
- Which city, in your opinion, attracts you more to live in it -
weather, society, and culture considered?


Other Considerations
====================
- Where is the faculty more approachable? Concentrated only on helping you? 

It is finally up to you to answer these questions. I just hope that my
questions helped you to focus yourself on what you need, and therefore
to decide. You are asking people to put themselves in your place, but
the considerations should not be only those of employability and
ranking, some of them are highly personal, and therefore only you
could answer your own question. Here are several points from a
business school advisor:
Be your own best F.A.N.
by Dayton Hughes 
<http://www.amt-group.com/gsp-0499-fan.html>.

I hope this answered your question. Please contact me if you need any
clarification on this answer before you rate it.
blossom834-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars

Comments  
Subject: Re: what school do i pick?
From: probonopublico-ga on 25 May 2004 03:53 PDT
 
Toss a coin!

You can never tell how things are going to work out.

And nobody can advise you either.
Subject: Re: what school do i pick?
From: probonopublico-ga on 25 May 2004 13:15 PDT
 
OK, so it's more important than a coin toss.

So, you toss THREE coins and take the best of three.

And NO CHEATING!
Subject: Re: what school do i pick?
From: serenata-ga on 25 May 2004 14:50 PDT
 
Don't you think the "better" choice is the one that is right for you?

If you are interested in social work, where you will presumably be
making decisions which could change the lives of others, don't you
think you should start exercising that skill and deciding which school
is the "better" choice for you?

With all the rules, education and scenarios you might possibly
envision in social work, there will still come a situation where the
decision is going to be yours to make, with no help from others. It's
a fact ... so start now, weigh what is the most important to you and
make that decision.

Remember, making no decision or even tossing a coin is also a
decision, and should be some insight into how you approach life now
and how you may need to work to change some things to be effective in
any career field you choose.

This is just my opinion, but the best place to start is with yourself.

Serenata
Subject: Re: what school do i pick?
From: apteryx-ga on 25 May 2004 22:16 PDT
 
Hey, blossom834--

New York is hella scarier than Boston.  BC is on a nice green hill and
right on the trolley line that goes downtown.

If roots make a difference to you--

Columbia:
"Columbia University was founded in 1754 as King's College by royal
charter of King George II of England. It is the oldest institution of
higher learning in the state of New York and the fifth oldest in the
United States."
http://www.columbia.edu/about_columbia/history.html

Boston College:
"Boston College was founded by the Society of Jesus in 1863 and, with
3 teachers and 22 students, opened its doors on September 5, 1864."
http://www.bc.edu/about/history/

Good luck with your choice.

Apteryx
Subject: Re: what school do i pick?
From: blossom834-ga on 27 May 2004 07:49 PDT
 
Thank you all for your insight! The answer was pretty much what I was
looking for, I really need to sit down and nit pick the schools and
decide which one has a more concentrated program in what I want to do.
I had just really wanted to know if ranking was that important in a
social work school. I think I have found my answer, and now just have
to make my own decision as someone else has said.
Thanks!

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