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Subject:
light gun compatibility with a crt projection tv
Category: Computers Asked by: sevennus-ga List Price: $15.00 |
Posted:
25 May 2004 04:29 PDT
Expires: 24 Jun 2004 04:29 PDT Question ID: 351582 |
i built a mame arcade cabinet, and i want to add two light guns to it. the only ones that I can find are these: http://www.act-labs.com/scripts/proddetails.asp?pid=132. The only problem is, the specs say that they dont work on projection tvs. Further investigation taught me that light guns will NEVER work on an LCD projection tv, but they may sometimes work on a CRT projection TV. Could this have been a lack of CRT consideration by actlabs? Regardless, my tv is a hitachi ultra view 46" crt projection with svideo input. There has to be SOME way to get this working. after all, i know the giant time crisis two screens in arcades have to be projection tvs, for as far as I know it is impossible to make full on crts bigger than 40 inch. I would like one of three things. 1. indisputable proof that these light guns will work with my tv (again 46" hitachi ultraview crt projection). 2. indisputable proof that these light guns will not work with my television. 3. a way that i can sort of rig something up so that they will work. P.S. one idea i had was to buy the regular vga lightguns described at http://www.act-labs.com/scripts/proddetails.asp?pid=92 (the other ones i posted were svideo only) and using a signal converter box to change the vga signal from the gun box to the svideo that the tv accepts. just an idea though. try to prove to me that that idea wont work please. 15 bucks sounds fair to me... | |
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Subject:
Re: light gun compatibility with a crt projection tv
From: kstebleton-ga on 25 May 2004 11:48 PDT |
I can't see why a CRT projector would not work. It's an electron beam being swept across the face of a CRT, making the "hot spot" that the sensor detects. LCD panels and other non-CRT imaging devices do not use "scanning", but rather screen allows a constant light source to pass. This is why video cameras can shoot LCD screens without that scan-bar present on most computer CRT's. NOTE: IF your projector uses line doubling, the scanning detector would be tripped up pretty badly ... and many "HD" projectors (my Toshiba!) do use a line doubler. |
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Re: light gun compatibility with a crt projection tv
From: sevennus-ga on 25 May 2004 20:14 PDT |
The reason that I see why a projector tv would not work is from what I know, the way it works is there is a smaller crt tube inside, and that image is projected onto a larger screen, and i thought that you can only shoot at a crt screen, not a projected image of it, but I could be completely wrong, for I really dont know anything about TVs (if you havent noticed). This theory just made sense... |
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Re: light gun compatibility with a crt projection tv
From: neilzero-ga on 26 May 2004 07:49 PDT |
kst seems to understand, but I don't. My first thought is a light gun is like a laser pointer. Next I concidered that it might be like the cursor hourglass and arrow that we move on the computer screen. If the latter, it should be possible (perhaps not practical) to use any type of screen, plasma, LCD, LED, florescent, or projection plus electrostatic or magnetic deflction in a CRT. Neil |
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Re: light gun compatibility with a crt projection tv
From: moe13-ga on 27 May 2004 19:57 PDT |
Well first of all i need to explain one thing to everyone, when using a light gun to shoot somthing on tv or a computer's crt screen its comon sense that the beam doesnt go throught the tv, its the gun that knows where it shot which tells the computer if u hit or missed. now the light gun will work 100% with a CRT projection TV and not lcd projection tvs, because the way that the gun knows where exactley it shot is that the gun scans the crt tv and knows exacly where is any point is on it now the CRT tv reacts to the beam sent by the gun by flash that dims in that point and the gun records that flash gets the Y, Z locaotion if that point and sends it to the pc and the game will then process it now the reason this will work withcrt projection TV's is that the tv works this way CRT projector off a miror onto the screen, now if u touch the screen of that tvv u will notice its plastic unless it has a glass screensaver that plastic is seethrough but the reason u dont see inside ur tv is that there is no light inside of it but light does go through and thats how u see from ur projector to ur eye now that gun beam will go through the screen off the mirror and on the CRT projector now for a Detailed proof of what i said u can go to http://www.epanorama.net/documents/pc/lightpen.html http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question273.htm |
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