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Hawaiian martial art
Category: Sports and Recreation Asked by: bebs-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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30 Jun 2002 16:41 PDT
Expires: 30 Jul 2002 16:41 PDT Question ID: 35289 |
I look for sites related to a Martial art / Combat technique of old Hawaiian origin. It is or was practiced at least on one of the Hawaiian Island, the Island of Kauai. This technique also teaches how to move swiftly and discreetly from one location to another without being seen. The (very) approximate name of this martial art / combat technique is HAKIPOHOWU. |
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Re: Hawaiian martial art
Answered By: madsky101-ga on 05 Jul 2002 10:41 PDT Rated: |
Aloha! I have thoroughly enjoyed researching your question. To begin with, let's delve into a little history the ancient Hawaiian martial arts of Hawaiian Lua. In the 1600's, seafaring Polynesian people were searching to find a place away from the turmoil of their homelands, when they came across eight islands in close proximity, the Hawaiian Islands. The Polynesians settled on these islands and began laying the groundwork for the rules and regulations for safe and peaceful communities. Each Hawaiian Island selected leaders and people to create the rules and regulations. They also established security groups to make sure the rules were enforced. Around 1750, a Martial Art known as Lua was developed and introduced to the King, the Ali'is, and Honor Guards. This Lua Martial Art was only taught to these special people and their bloodlines. The Lua was forbidden to be taught to anyone else, and remained a secret shared only amongst the special groups. The Lua is the art of dislocation of joints. There were 12 types of original Lua training, and each type specialized in a different part of the human anatomy. The secret of Lua was broken when in the 1920's, Professor Henry Okazaki learned Lua from a Hawaiian man from Hilo. He had the permission of the Hawaiian Kumu (Lua instructor) Now that you know a little background on the fascinating world of Hawaiin Lua, let's talk about your original question concerning "HAKIPOHOWU". After many searches, emails, and phone calls, I was not able to find anything about a technic called "HAKIPOHOWU". I emailed a one of the top authorities on Hawaiian Martial Arts and their histories, Olohe Solomon Kaihewalu. A Lua master is known as an "olohe". Olohe Solomon Kaihewalu, sent me an email with an explanation of what he thinks that you describe. Here is a copy of his email: "Hello, I am sorry I can not help you with the word you have written as "HAKIPOHOWU", it could have been miss spelled or pronounce wrong? I never seen or heard of this word. This word at the end, "WU" might be wrong? the "HAKIPOHO" is a chant or chanting (song)of some one who made mistakes. The art of being there & seen and not being seen is our Koa (special Lua Warrior) that use the night/darkness to work his or her Art of Lua. This Koa's (warrior's) learn how to walk on big pebble rocks at night, he or she gets to a location quickly by stepping only on the big or bigger pebble rocks, this "Koa" will stay low and will skip - hop from one Pebble to another and this is at night. {This story is from my Mom} she is from Nawiliwili, Kauai. A Hui Hou Malama Pono, Olohe: Kolomona Kaihewalu" Lua conditioning is similar to many martial arts. Balance is important, and there are many exercises and breathing techniques. Lua practioners are especially agile. I hope that this helps to shed light on the information you were seeking. I am listing several links to information that I hope you find useful about this intriguing form of Martial Arts. It has been a pleasure to provide assistance. Links of interest: Olohe Solomon Kaihewalu http://www.olohe.com/instructor/instructor.html Hawaiian Lua, by Bob Reish from The Kiai Echo - Spring 1996 http://www.paulwaters.com/lua.htm More about Professor Henry Okazaki The History of Danzan Ryu Jujitsu Evolution-Revolution in the Martial Arts, l906-1951, By William M. Fischer http://members.aol.com/profcz/History.html Search terms: "ancient hawaiian martial arts" "ancient martial arts"+hawaii "hawaiian lua" "hawaiian martial arts"+history "ancient hawaii"+martial arts "martial arts"+hawaii "hawaiian lua"+history "martial arts"+Kauai Other search techniques: Emails to Hawaiian Martial Arts Schools and Masters | |
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Re: Hawaiian martial art
From: alienintelligence-ga on 01 Jul 2002 01:21 PDT |
Although they don't mention the word you used, these are on the arts of Hawaii some look promising: http://www.kajukenbo.org/history/ http://www.hmasociety.com/ http://www.olohe.com/ http://martialarts.about.com/library/weekly/aa021400a.htm http://martialarts.about.com/library/weekly/aa013100.htm http://martialarts.about.com/cs/lua/ [Contains the above + more] http://pub75.ezboard.com/fmartialartsworldwidefrm21.showMessage?topicID=3.topic The search I used: ://www.google.com/search?q=Hawaiian+martial+art+ Any good? -AI |
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Re: Hawaiian martial art
From: alienintelligence-ga on 01 Jul 2002 02:43 PDT |
That HMA Hawaiian Martial Arts society appears to be just jujitsu on the island. Nothing from wayback. Not relevant to the question. The Kajukenbo link might be contemporary also. -AI |
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Re: Hawaiian martial art
From: alienintelligence-ga on 01 Jul 2002 04:37 PDT |
Also, a couple of islander friends I have, swear there is no martial art(s) indigenous to Hawai'i. Oh, and that Martial Art called Lau... they say Lau means bathroom. Hehe. -AI |
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Re: Hawaiian martial art
From: garcia0854-ga on 29 May 2004 21:03 PDT |
Lua means bathroom in pidgin, not Hawaiian. As for it being a martial art ; http://www.olohe.com is the national headquarters' website. |
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Re: Hawaiian martial art
From: hawaiianson-ga on 01 Aug 2004 04:26 PDT |
Unfortunately, much of that information provided by the different sources are incorrect. "In the 1600's, seafaring Polynesian people were searching to find a place away from the turmoil of their homelands, when they came across eight islands in close proximity, the Hawaiian Islands. The Polynesians settled on these islands and began laying the groundwork for the rules and regulations for safe and peaceful communities." Seafaring Polynesians actually began "searching for a place" a place around a thousand or more so years. While some people dispute exactly when the first Polynesians came to Hawai'i, generally, it is accepted to have been around 200 AD through 500AD. It is also widely accepted that these first Polynesians came from the Marquesas Islands. Later, Polynesians from Tahiti came to Hawai'i. "Each Hawaiian Island selected leaders and people to create the rules and regulations. They also established security groups to make sure the rules were enforced." This is quite misleading. In ancient Hawai'i, there were many chiefdoms at war. What exactly is meant by, "each Hawaiian island selected leaders and people to create the rules and regulations"? Surely, the physical island itself did not choose such people. The typical model of government during this time was that of chiefdoms, far from being a democracy. The people on each island, contrary to what is written above, did not select their leaders or other people to create rules and regulations. This type of democratic process did not exist in Hawai'i until after the 1830's. "Around 1750, a Martial Art known as Lua was developed and introduced to the King, the Ali'is, and Honor Guards. This Lua Martial Art was only taught to these special people and their bloodlines. The Lua was forbidden to be taught to anyone else, and remained a secret shared only amongst the special groups." The above quoted statement basically says that lua was created around 1750. If this is true, then that would mean that when Kamehameha the Great was born, the fighting art of lua was only about 20-30 years old. Lua is considered to be the mother of Hula, which was created more than a thousand years before 1750. With lua being the mother of hula, lua could not have been created around 1750. "There were 12 types of original Lua training, and each type specialized in a different part of the human anatomy." In my own study of lua and research into its history I have only read about these "12 types of lua training schools" from interviews with Solomon Ka'ihewalu. Nothing in the Bishop Museum or anything written by John Papa 'I'i, a lua master during the reign of Kamehameha the Great who lived after the King's death, that support the idea of 12 lua schools. Instead, John Papa 'I'i writes that Kamehameha, after consolidating political power, maintained only three lua schools. Of all the lua information I have come across on the internet, the best lua site I've found is <a href="http://www.hanahou.com/wayofwarrior.htm">http://www.hanahou.com/wayofwarrior.htm</a> |
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Re: Hawaiian martial art
From: hawaiianson-ga on 01 Aug 2004 04:39 PDT |
"Lua means bathroom in pidgin, not Hawaiian. As for it being a martial art ; http://www.olohe.com is the national headquarters' website." Actually, the word lua also means pit or a hole with a bottom. Which, in ancient times, is what Hawaiians used to dispose of their excrement and urine. In ancient times, Hawaiians feared that their urine and excrement (among other bodily items/products) could be used by people who practiced "sorcery." To keep these things from being found, they would often dig a pit/hole (lua) and then bury these items. Because of this definition of lua, it translates, from Hawaiian to English to mean bathroom. Derek Kauanoe www.HawaiiansAbroad.com |
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