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Subject:
marriage counseling
Category: Relationships and Society > Relationships Asked by: unsureboy-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
29 May 2004 17:21 PDT
Expires: 28 Jun 2004 17:21 PDT Question ID: 353666 |
the short story is, should i stay or should i go? after five and half years of marriage my australian wife has decided she wants to live in australia. we planned in advance and purchased tickets last march with the intention of visiting during the holiday season with the notion of "trying it out" so to speak. in october she decided it better to not come back. but as i had no residency visa i had to return and wait out my life here while she (and our daughter) began making a life for herself there. it's now nearly june and i'm here. in the meantime i've come to realize different ways in which my life had been dictatetd by our relationship. i miss my daughter greatly, but i'm not sure if i can reconcile with living on the other side of the world in a lack luster relationship. |
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Re: marriage counseling
From: apteryx-ga on 30 May 2004 12:18 PDT |
Tough question, Unsureboy. Dear Abby always asks, "Are you better off with her or without her?" Just my opinion, but you won't get the answer by trying to add up points in the plus and minus columns. It's more likely to come from the gut. From your gut and no one else's. The other thought is, if you wait a little, you can always make your move later. But if you make your move before you're sure, you may not be able to undo it. Either way, in your case, you're going to be burning bridges. What do you really want, and is it even possible to get it? Apteryx (not a researcher) |
Subject:
Re: marriage counseling
From: ramblingdiatribe-ga on 04 Jun 2004 00:03 PDT |
This may seem harsh, so please make sure you're sitting down before you read this... Your wife doesn't care about you. She's selfish, and she's destructively putting your daughter's welfare behind her self-centred attitude by moving her away from you -- children need both parents in their lives when growing up. What is the real reason she doesn't want to come back with you? She must've known that you wouldn't have been able to stay in Australia, and the fact that she didn't keep her promise with regards to the plan you described (to just visit) is a clear indication that she doesn't respect you and may even be trying to hide something from you (for example, with you out of the picture, she'd be free to have an affair). It may also be a good idea for you to consult with a lawyer to find out what your rights are as a parent in this type of situation. If you filed for divorce and asked for custody of your daughter, you'll want to know if what she's done could be viewed as "kidnapping" by the law if she didn't have your consent to keep your daughter there with her (the age of your daughter will likely also have an impact on this). Now, if you managed to get a citizenship status in the other country, could you truly believe that she would never do this again? She's done it once already. Good luck, and I hope that you are able to find a solution that's most beneficial to your daugther first and foremost. |
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Re: marriage counseling
From: mareinfinitus-ga on 07 Jun 2004 01:59 PDT |
I tend to agree somewhat with ramblingdiatribe-ga, but I think it a bit harsh. Isolation in a foreign country can be tough for some people, maybe more so for a woman with a "dependant personality type". Also an interesting comment you made "in the meantime i've come to realize different ways in which my life had been dictatetd by our relationship". My brother is married to a woman where you dont even have to ponder the question, it is so "in your face" how much she "wears the pants". But he puts up with in even though it drives him nuts. So dont think you have it too bad Personally I think you should simply ask if your wife wants you to come to Australia. If she is not that enthusiastic, then I think your marriage is not going anywhere |
Subject:
Re: marriage counseling
From: ramblingdiatribe-ga on 04 Jul 2004 21:14 PDT |
Sorry mareinfinitus-ga, although I appreciate your response to my comments, I simply can't agree with what you've contributed... The phrase "dependant personality type" is just psycho-babble -- it's a bunch of nonsense. There is no such thing as a "dependant personality type" in my books since people who would probably fit such a category are, to put it simply, just weak because they lack the self-confidence needed to make the truly tough decisions in life for themselves. Unfortunately, one of the side-effects of life is that we often faced with choosing between right and wrong, and what's right is almost always the more difficult choice to make at first glance (true power from within comes from seeing that the right choice is actually easier for everyone in the long run; e.g., to confront that nasty mother-in-law while the marriage is new as opposed to waiting for years or decades to pass and letting her practically destroy the marriage slowly one step at a time -- this example is a lot more common of a scenario than I think most people realize, especially since most people choose not to do anything about it until it gets almost totally unbearable). Once someone realizes how easy it is to make the correct choice (by making a concerted effort to decide to do what's right), then they begin to grow up and truly begin to enjoy the personal freedoms that are a part of normal living. "Isolation in a foreign country" is just a form of scape-goating. It's a common selfish attempt by dysfunctional people to manipulate the situation with the usual "poor me, I'm not familiar with this place, so please feel sorry for me and put up with my crap." If anything, this indicates a serious self-confidence problem on the part of the perpetrator since they obviously feel a need to exert control indirectly (because they probably don't feel that they can just do it normally and when appropriate; sometimes they don't know when it is appropriate). When you write "... he puts up with in even though it drives him nuts. So dont think you have it too bad" you are actually asking the original poster to lower his standards. This is very bad because it's leading him down the wrong path -- he's doing quite well already by recognizing a problem, but if he starts thinking this way then he's going to waste a lot more time and effort on resolving this problem and then it will be too late because his daughter should have grown up and left home by then. I think it's very sad that people feel a need to lower their standards to accomodate dysfunctional behaviour, and I believe it's clearly the wrong kind of role-modelling for children (because approximately 80% of what we learn is from copying others; it's no wonder progress is so slow!). If he does what's right, today, even if his daughter is biased now she will come to realize some day that her father really cares for her. If he does what's wrong, today, then his daughter may get the impression that he's easy to push around, and these types of people usually aren't respected by anyone. |
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