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Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Music Asked by: childofnature-ga List Price: $4.00 |
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30 May 2004 12:39 PDT
Expires: 29 Jun 2004 12:39 PDT Question ID: 353943 |
Who are the three gentlemen in the painting on the back cover of the Grateful Dead's album Skeletons From The Closet? |
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Re: Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
Answered By: clouseau-ga on 30 May 2004 19:02 PDT Rated: |
Hello childofnature, As I mentioned in the comments section, I had contacted the artist for this work, John Van Hamersveld. He was kind enough to reply: "...The date was 1973 and I had the job of doing the drawing for "Skeletons From The Closet" cover. Note Jesus (modeled after the likeness of Gordon Mc McClelland (Rick Griffin's agent at the time both Rick and Gordon had become Christians) is in the middle of the composition. He's playing cards with Marlon Brando, as rebel biker (Hell's Angels) and the old actor Cesar Romero from the 50s, representing the Jerry Garcia nation, all sitting at a diner like cafe, outside the window is Buckmister Fuller in the Dymaxian (three wheeled bus) Car and the Frank Loyd Wright, Johnson Wax Building in the distance and above in the sky is the saucer from the "The Day The World Stood Still". The trophy in the center, chrome like sculpture is a globe as what they are betting on. The sun is on the back of the cards symbolized a hope. The ecology sign is on the match book, implying they were smoking pot. I really dedicated it to Rick Griffin at the time..." So now we know! Thanks for a great question that baffled the Deadhead experts. Regards, -=clouseau=- |
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Excellent research--going to the artist himself for the definitive answer. I learned so much about the origin and inspiration of the painting. Thanks so much! |
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Re: Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
From: pinkfreud-ga on 30 May 2004 14:31 PDT |
Here's the image: http://members.aol.com/fng02/music8.jpg The guy on the left definitely looks like the young Marlon Brando as he appeared in the movie "The Wild One": http://www.ozebook.com/cpotw/potw1.jpg The guy on the right might be Warner Baxter, as "The Cisco Kid": http://www.thecolumnists.com/miller/miller184art1.jpg The guy in the center looks a bit like Kris Kristofferson, who was a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University. |
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Re: Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
From: clouseau-ga on 30 May 2004 16:16 PDT |
I wish it were as easy as Tennesee Jed, Jack Straw and August West....but it isn't. It is defintely Brando. But I remain unconvinced just yet on the others. Perhaps a bad image of Tim Leary in the center? I even emailed my friend David Gans from the Deadhead Hour and he doesn't know. Nor does the editor of the Grateful Dead Almanac. I shall keep investigating though. You have caught my curiousity. -=clouseau=- |
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Re: Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
From: clouseau-ga on 30 May 2004 16:26 PDT |
The artist is John Van Hamersveld. I have emailed him. His web site is www.vanhamersveldmuseumofart.com . More as I find it. -=clouseau=- |
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Re: Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
From: pinkfreud-ga on 30 May 2004 19:11 PDT |
Astounding sleuthing, Clouseau!!! I'm very glad you found a definitive answer, since I might have stayed up all night fretting about this otherwise. So the dude in the middle represents Jesus? Amazing. I might play cards with Brando and Cesar Romero, but I wouldn't want to play cards with Jesus. How could you possibly bluff? If we had an award for "Answer of the Day," I would give this one the prize. |
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Re: Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
From: clouseau-ga on 30 May 2004 19:32 PDT |
Why thank you Pinkfreud! With 500 some odd Dead shows under my belt and the works of Stanley Mouse and Alton Kelley adorning my walls, this was a matter of pride to answer :) It's not often we get Deadhead related questions and I'm afraid I would have been sharing your insomnia had my research not panned out. And should I have ever found myself in this card game, I would just have to pause to ask WWJD - what would Jerry do? Best always, -=clouseau=- |
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Re: Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
From: childofnature-ga on 30 May 2004 21:09 PDT |
Thank you so much for your answer, Clouseau! I knew it was Brando, and thought it was Jesus, but I wasn't quite positive. My friend and I were going crazy trying to think of film icons who could possibly be represented by the middle figure--and it turns out to be the ulitmate icon Himself! :) Thanks again for your help. I'll sleep tonight! |
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Re: Question About Grateful Dead Album Cover
From: clouseau-ga on 30 May 2004 21:27 PDT |
My pleasure! And thank you for the stars and tip. -=clouseau=- |
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