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Subject:
Fraudulent sell at yahoo.
Category: Business and Money > eCommerce Asked by: julio_f-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
31 May 2004 21:12 PDT
Expires: 30 Jun 2004 21:12 PDT Question ID: 354561 |
A few days ago I placed a bid on yahoo! auctions but lost it. The day after I got several emails from different people (mainly from Italy) saying that they could offer me the same article I bid for significantly less money. I replied to one of them and asked about conditions and security. He answered the transaction was through yahoo auctions and he has an account with $5000 and they would be responsible for all negative consequences (even they would give me a refund if something went wrong. Also, he claims that the shipment will be made through UPS. He will put the product with UPS, UPS then will send me a confirmation saying that the product is ready to be shipped when they get the approval after my payment. I gave this person my address and I already got 2 confirmation emails, one from yahoo another from ups: Yahoo email came from: aw-confirm@list1.ac.vip.scd.yahoo.com UPS email came from aw-confirmation@ups.com The UPS email says: This message was sent to you at the request of Ionut Paunoiu to notify you that information related to the following shipment will be shipped to you by UPS, but we will not proceed the order until we get the confirmation from the seller that has been paid. Yahoo email says among other things: 3. Seller Marian Enache (jurtkem@yahoo.com) has been verified by Yahoo Shopping Auctions and there is no problem in dealing with him. 4.Yahoo Shopping Auctions allows the buyer to pay the seller using Western Union service as the seller solicited! 5.Has an account ($5000) at us and if something will go wrong. Yahoo Shopping Auctions will responsible for all negative consequence of this transaction! I?ve looked in yahoo and UPS but couldn?t find infor about these people or this kind of transactions. Are these emails valid? How can I verify this is not a fraudulent person/transaction? Is there any information regarding these emails or history of frauds using this scheme? How it is possible that I got a ups/yahoo email if this is not for real? On the other hand, is it possible I just got a good deal? | |
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Re: Fraudulent sell at yahoo.
Answered By: pafalafa-ga on 01 Jun 2004 15:11 PDT Rated: |
Julio, Thank you for having the foresight to run a check on the emails you received. I can assure you that they did not originate from Yahoo or UPS, but are instead, fraudulent messages designed to look legitimate, and to part you from your money. As I said earlier -- do not send these people any money, or any information. They are out to rob you. You received two emails -- one claiming to be from Yahoo, one from UPS -- assuring you that there are "no problems" in the transaction you are considering. Note that both the emails begin similarly, with the text: "aw-confirm..." aw-confirm is a fairly well-known scam that has mostly focused on ebay customers, but is now apparently expanding its horizons. A site called Fraud Watch International has a "Fraud Alert" posted on the aw-confirm scam at: http://www.fraudwatchinternational.com/fraud_alerts/040103_ebay.htm ===== FRAUD ALERT eBay phishing email - "aw-confirm@ebay.com" Date Issued: January 03 2004 eBay customers are the target of the latest 'phishing' emails. This message is NOT from eBay. ===== More recently, messages have begun appearing warning of aw-confirm spoofing Yahoo: http://lists.sosdg.org/pipermail/sosdg-nanab/2004-March/001110.html ===== Cgi1-yahoo.com has been Terminated off Hostingbyregister.com Mar 29, 2004 The domain cgi1-yahoo.com has been terminated off Hostingbyregister.com for spoofing yahoo.com (http://cgi1-yahoo.com/secure/) effective today March 29, 2004 at 1 PM... X-Originating-IP: [194.102.90.39] From: aw-confirm at yahoo.com ===== In both cases, the messages were "phishing" -- attempting to get the recipient to click on a website link, and enter sensitive information, such as credit card numbers and passwords. So the scam is a bit different than the one you received, but the scammers look pretty familiar, either because they are the same individuals responsbile for the earlier aw-confirm scams, or because they are mimicing those scams. You should report the fraudulent email to Yahoo, as they may very well take action against the perpetrators. A form for reporting Impersonations (emails masquarading as if they came from Yahoo) can be found here: ===== http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/mail/cgi_abuse Please use this form to report suspected issues of harassment or impersonation to the Yahoo! Mail Abuse Team. ===== Be sure to provide them the full details of the message you received that appeared to come from Yahoo, including the email message headers (the Yahoo page includes instructions for copying the full headers). ===== UPS also has a page warning customers about fraudulent use of the UPS name: ===== http://www.ups.com/content/cy/en/about/news/fraud_use.html Fraudulent Usage of UPS Name and Brand Service Update UPS has become aware of increasing fraudulent activity through the misappropriation of the UPS name and brand. ===== UPS asks that you contact them through the contact information provided for the country you live in. For the US, the contact information page is here: http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/contact/index.html I hope this provides you enough information to convince you of the fraudulent nature of these emails, and to take steps to report them. If you find you need additional information, please let me know how I can help you further. Just post a Request for Clarification, and I'm at your service. All the best, pafalafa-ga search strategy: Google searches on: aw-confirm aw-confirmation email (scam OR fraud OR impersonation OR hoax) |
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Re: Fraudulent sell at yahoo.
From: wandering-ga on 31 May 2004 22:38 PDT |
I hope you didn't go ahead with transaction! Part of my job is to track fraudulent transaction for a company that does e-commerce, therefore I do have experience with this kind of issues. First at all you must understand that anybody can send a email and FAKE the sender's email, it's trivial for someone with SMTP(the protocol used for email) knowledge. Secondly, the names you just provided, are from Romania, a country (I meant the people..) notorious for its fraudulent transactions over the net. Thirdly, UPS does not operate in such a way that you've described. The only time you'll ever receive an email from UPS is when the item actually is in the hands of UPS, or when a verified business customers (i.e. AMAZON.COM) sends stuff to you. In this particular case, the shipper has an account with UPS, and this allows them to pre-notify UPS of the UPCOMING shipment, therefore you will RECEIVE an email with a VALID tracking number. Fourthly, YAHOO! Auctions would NEVER disclose any info regarding the amount of money in its users accounts! IF there is a fraudulent Auction, Yahoo covers up to $1000, IF certain conditions apply: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/auct/abid/insure/insure-01.html This is a known type of fraud, and usually implies sophisticated fake emails, even phone calls. Your example is so typical, and I'm glad you posted here, so other ones can learn from this. STAY AWAY from this kind of transactions!!! |
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Re: Fraudulent sell at yahoo.
From: probonopublico-ga on 01 Jun 2004 00:52 PDT |
Wow! What a GREAT Comment, Wandering. Bryan |
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Re: Fraudulent sell at yahoo.
From: sucker5-ga on 09 Jun 2004 13:00 PDT |
Hello, Just a thought. I was on the receiving end of a few scams myself. It is difficult sometimes to validate where an email is coming from so a general rule that I use is to contact the company myself. If yahoo sent you an email then surely they have records of it and a company support person can validate that it is real. To get over on you this way they would have to reroute your calls:) That doesn't happen too often. |
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Re: Fraudulent sell at yahoo.
From: suryap-ga on 12 Jun 2004 11:36 PDT |
I encountered s somewhat similar situation. I replied to an ad on AdPost.com for a Laptop and the seller is not giving me enough information to complete the deal. When I asked for clarification of warranty and original bills for the laptop he is mum. I got two replies and both of them said only one thing. ?I will send you the scanned copy of UPS shipping. You verify and pay the price. I will release the item for shipping thereafter?. I notified the AdPost.com support group and asked for a credibility check on that person. He calls himself muianol and claims to be from Romania. The deal is so tempting that I can?t let it go so I just gave this guy option of LC (Letter of Credit) or Cash on Delivery to complete the deal. I am yet to hear from him. I will post on any updates that I receive from this guy. Let?s see how far we can track him. The major job is with AdPost.com since I don?t get to see this guy?s Email but he did give me a phone number |
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Re: Fraudulent sell at yahoo.
From: neji_biakugan-ga on 07 Jul 2004 06:13 PDT |
Hey suryap I've encountered this guy muianol too but have no idea about how to figure out if he's legit... Any result from your last post? Neji |
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