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Subject: Europe/US University degees
Category: Relationships and Society
Asked by: racole-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 01 Jun 2004 20:35 PDT
Expires: 01 Jul 2004 20:35 PDT
Question ID: 355089
How does the distribution of "practical" (e.g. MBA, Law, Medicine,
Engineering, auto-body repair, HVAC, Licensed Nurse, etc) degrees
versus "non-practical" degrees (e.g. PP+E, Comparative English
Literature, French Studies, Renaissance History, etc) differ between
the American and European Universities?

More precisely I'm looking for a categorisation of Bachelor Degree
subjects in a compaparable format that will allow me to compare
European tastes for the abstract vs the American taste for the
practical.

Pls note, I'm looking for broad trends.

Request for Question Clarification by politicalguru-ga on 28 Jun 2004 12:54 PDT
What do you mean by "distribution"? How many graduates of each faculty
in the different countries?

Request for Question Clarification by politicalguru-ga on 28 Jun 2004 13:09 PDT
Sorry, my request for clarification has been truncated: 

What do you mean by "distribution"? How many graduates of each faculty
in the different countries?

Or, in contrast, how many disciplines/faculties ar offered? 

I must also express my agreement with Neo, who commented bellow:
Bachelor is not the norm in all European countries (and on the other
hand, things that requier graduate education in the United States ,
are taught in the bachelor level in most of Europe, such as law); in
addition, many of the "practical" degrees you've mentioned are not
bachelor degrees, but Associate/Masters' degrees, or non-academic at
all. In Germany, for example, RN nurses (as well as midwives) are
professionaly trained in the hospital, they do not receive a bachelor
degree.

Maybe it would be easier for your research if you: 
- Chose specific desiciplines: for example, humanities/social science
vs. engineering, law, business, nursing;
- Limited your research to countries in Europe that offer academic
programmes at the bachelor level, which are more similar to the
American model (UK, Ireland).

Clarification of Question by racole-ga on 28 Jun 2004 13:55 PDT
By  "distribution" I mean the % breakdown of graduates between
"practical" and "non-practical" Bachelors degrees (or their
equivalent).

By "practical" I mean: Business, Law, Medicine, Economics, Engineering
(of all types), Architecture, All Sciences (Physics, Chem, Biology,
Psychology, etc.), Mathematics.

By "non-practical" I mean Fine Arts, Literature, Languages,
Philosophy, Sociology, History.

I am particoularly interested in comparing Continental Europe with the USA.

Request for Question Clarification by politicalguru-ga on 30 Jun 2004 11:21 PDT
Dear Racole, 

TThank you for the clarification. First of all, since you said you're
interested in continental Europe, are there any specific countries out
of this list?
Albania
Andorra
Austria
Belarus
Belgium
Bosnia Herzegovina
Bulgaria
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Faeroe Islands
Finland
France
Germany
Gibraltar
Greece
Greenland
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Malta
Moldova
Monaco
The Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
San Marino
Serbia-Montenegro
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Svalbard & Jan Mayen
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
Ukraine
United Kingdom
Vatican City


Regarding the faculties you've asked for: 

- Law and Medicine are taught at graduate school level in the United States; 

- A bachelor in psychology does not lead in the United States and most
countries to employment as a "psychologist" - if one wants to be a
therapist, or an organisational/ occupational psychologist, they'll
have to go to grad school.

- I find it interesting that you chose to leave pedagogics and social
work out. Is there a particular reason?
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Subject: Re: Europe/US University degees
From: nneo23-ga on 28 Jun 2004 12:13 PDT
 
It is even not that easy to compare university degrees in Europe
itself. I might speak for Germany where the Bachelor-degree has been
introduced ten years ago (but is not yet that popular or wide-spread).
So far, the FH-Diploma(=practical) in Germany is the opposite of a
University-Diploma (=abstract). But as mentioned, those german degrees
differ largely from those in France or England...
Subject: Re: Europe/US University degees
From: racole-ga on 02 Jul 2004 20:37 PDT
 
I'm interesed in France, Germany, Italy, Spain.  If you have data for
Scandinavia I'd be interested in that, also.
...........................................

"Law and Medicine are taught at graduate school level in the United States; "

I'd be interested in data relating to Bachelor's and higher degrees,
in Europe (as defined above) and the USA.
...............................................

"if one wants to be a therapist, or an organisational/ occupational
psychologist, they'll have to go to grad school."

See previous answer.

...............................................

"I find it interesting that you chose to leave pedagogics and social
work out. Is there a particular reason?"

Hadn't thought about it in those terms.  I'm trying to get data that
would show whether or not Americans are more inclined to get "career"
oriented education (eg business, law, engineering) as opposed to
"intellectual fulfillment" oriented education (eg philosophy,
literature, art).  Perhaps the best approach to take would be to look
at "applied studies" (business, law, medicine, economics, etc.) at one
end of the spectrum, "pure studies" (art, literature, philosophy,
history, etc) at the other and ignore the middle ground.

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