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Email/chat group/IM tracing
Category: Relationships and Society > Romance Asked by: heartbrokeninjose-ga List Price: $100.00 |
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09 Jun 2004 23:06 PDT
Expires: 09 Jul 2004 23:06 PDT Question ID: 359012 |
About 6 months ago I found out my husband was participating in yahoo chat groups. He has been doing this for about 4 years, becoming quite involved with some of the people he has met online. I know it is possible to trace his chats somehow and also his instant messaging but I do not know how to do this. How can I retrieve his archived chat sessions and can I trace his interaction with soecific induviduals if I knew their email addresses? |
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Re: Email/chat group/IM tracing
Answered By: larre-ga on 10 Jun 2004 01:10 PDT |
Hullo, There are items of Internet communication that can be traced, and others that cannot. Instant Messaging and Chats are stored only in temporary memory, unless a user chooses to save them independently. Once deleted, it often takes a skilled professional to retrieve that sort of data from a hard drive. If the user is computer savvy, it could well be impossible to locate erased information, since there are a number of utilities that both erase data and reformat the disk space it occupied. That said, there are, however, several commercial utilities and applications that make it possible for amateurs to search specific program files for Pixie Dust... traces of what has gone before. Searching for stored packets on the Internet or on others computers or storage spaces might be technically possible, however, most searching of that type is illegal. Google Answers cannot provide you with information about unlawful activities. Knowing an email address doesn't necessarily mean you can trace the individual. There are a number of ways to hide ones identity using web-based services. Once you have an email address, your best tracing option would be to work with a licensed private detective with computer forensic skills. The best option at this point is to secure your computer with a combination of hardware and software, in order to know everything that goes in and out from now on. Keystroke Loggers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From Wikipedia: "Keystroke logging is a diagnostic used in software development that captures the user's keystrokes. It can be useful to determine sources of error in computer systems. Such systems are also highly useful for law enforcement and espionage -- for instance, providing a means to obtain passwords or encryption keys and thus bypassing other security measures." Wikipedia - Keystroke Logging http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystroke_logging Software keyloggers can be detected by Spyware Removal Tools. If you're serious about finding out what is happening on your computer, with minimal risk of counterdetection, you'd probably want to use a hardware keylogger, rather than software, though I've listed two of the better applications. KeyKatcher is a relatively inexpensive hardware keylogger, but it has some limitations. It works only on PC PS/2 keyboard plugs, not USB keyboards. KeyKatcher.com http://www.keykatcher.com/index.html Keylogger provides three keylogging products: a keylogging replacement keyboard, a plug-in, stand-alone keylogger, and stealth keylogging software. Keylogger Hardware and Software http://www.amecisco.com/products.htm KeyGhost offers several different models of hardware keyloggers. They are easy to install and use, and offer a high level of security against detection. KeyGhost http://www.keyghost.com/ Pal Keylogger Pro is a commercial grade software keylogger with an extensive list of features. It can capture Instant Messages, emails, chats, even java chats. Keylogger Pro http://www.keylogpro.com/ Pal Solutions Security Products http://palsol.com/products.html Forensic Tools ---------------------------------------------------------------------- These tools may help you investigate data that is already on your computer system. DriveLook is a powerful forensic disk investigation tool. -- Index a hard drive for all text that ever was written to it -- Browse a list of all words stored on the drive -- Search for words or combinations of words -- View the location of words in a disk editor -- Switch between several views, such as hex and text view -- Use physical drives or logical drives as an input -- Use image files as an input "DriveLook scans a drive or a partition of a drive for text strings and stores these in a table. After completion of the scan you can browse this table and view the locations where the words had been found. The search function allows you to do fast fast inquiries for combinations of words." DriveLook Forensic Disk Investigation Tool http://www.runtime.org/drivelook.htm Omniquad Detective is another computer system forensic tool. Omniquad can: -- Monitor computer usage. -- Reconstruct activities retrospectively. -- Protect your organization's information. -- Identify users attempting to cover their tracks. -- Conduct batch scans across your network. -- Carry out rigorous content analysis. -- Define user search patterns. Omniquad Detective - Features/Download http://www.omniquad.com/omniquad_detective.htm Website Resources --------------------------------------------------------------------- A new website offers a combination of software products and advice to those who believe that online infidelity may be an issue in their relationship. CheatingSpouse.com http://www.cheating-spouse-software.com/ Spies Online - Cheating Partner provides a number of useful resources, from forensic software to articles, to detection kits and relationship counseling. Cheating Partner http://www.spiesonline.net/cheatingpartner.shtml Search Strategy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet Security Experience, Bookmarks, Google Search Terms: keystroke loggers hardware cheating spouse I hope you find this information useful. Should you have any questions about the materials or links I've provided, please, feel free to ask for Clarification. Best regards, ---larre |
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Re: Email/chat group/IM tracing
From: steph53-ga on 10 Jun 2004 05:25 PDT |
In MSN messenger, if you log in as your husband, just right click on an individual buddy on the list to view the chat history. In Yahoo IM, click on contacts tab and go to archived messages. |
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Re: Email/chat group/IM tracing
From: hsapien138-ga on 10 Jun 2004 17:51 PDT |
Hello. The above noted information is fine and accurate. However, I am of the opinion that social engineering remains the most effective tool for research. If you know his profile name this will help. Most passwordsd are fairly elementary. By this i mean XXX123456, initals and b-day. xxxxxxzz-childs name and year of birth. it takes patience and committment to find what you need. Back engineering html info helps as well. If a site is www.yahoo.com try profile.yahoo.com/name etc. The best was is a trap. If you think you know him go opposite. Develop a profile and well you fill in the blank. I know that there is a author posting tool on the old deja.com. i cannot find it. I think that organinc google email customers have access. This workd for PUBLIC domains/chats/groups (i think). Good luck, I might add..it took me 4 months to confirm what I felt. I should have just went on my intestinal fortitude and removed myself. But alas, I needed to find the answer...ciao |
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Re: Email/chat group/IM tracing
From: anonymussedhair-ga on 10 Jun 2004 20:33 PDT |
Read "In the Shadows of the Net: Breaking Free of Compulsive Online Sexual Behavior" to understand. Most likely, your husband has an addiction. Chances are, he will not change. There are deep seeded problems going way back to his childhood. Like alcoholism, this "disease" actually progresses. If he's not a casual user... if he covers his tracks... if he lies to you and makes excuses... if he loses track of time... he's already there. No. I'm not a prude. I believe in free speech, and free will. I have no moral objection to adult activity online. However, unfortunately, my s.o. has been dealing with this issue for many many years, and cannot stop. Spying and quarreling will most likely not help the issue. It is bigger than the both of you. When I confirmed my suspicions by spying, (which I did many times over the past 20 years via various means) all it did was make me feel worse and more angry. He always came back with some story about how I was exagerating the issue. Spying won't solve the problem. It will most likely make you sick. Talking to him will not solve it either, unless he's ready to change his behavior. And, if this is the first time you've caught him, he's not ready yet--trust me. He may tell you it's none of your business, or that it has nothing to do with you. He may tell you that he will stop, but even if he tries, statistics are against him. It does not mean he does not love you, but his capacity for intimacy is severely hindered. If you do not already have children, there's still time to get out of the relationship. Unfortunately, we now have a family and the decision to leave impacts then multiple people instead of just the two of us. If I knew 15 years ago what I know now... I wouldn't be in this situation. I would've left him while I still could, in spite of being Catholic. The pain this has caused me (primarily the lack of intimacy and a true, honest relationship) has made me a lesser person, and I am only now recovering from many years of reduced self esteem and self hate surrounding feelings of inadequacy because I was not (and am still not, and never will be) enough. I love a person who cannot stop. All the people we are aware of in counseling for sex addiction, online sex addiction and co-dependency have recurring issues. Not one of them has successfully overcome this after many years. (This may not be representative of the entire addictive population, but is the case in our particular group.) There's a big white elephant in your living room. Seek marriage and individual counseling, and you have a chance to make it work. You: for co-dependence. Him for addictive sexual behavior. If he refuses to go, you should go anyway, and make sure to work with someone who understands co-dependency and addictive behavior. My heart goes out to you. I know what you are going through, my dear. I live it every single day... and it haunts me worse than the most gruesome of nightmares. I've got over 20 years until the children are grown and out of the house. By then, I will be in my 60's and will have lived my entire adult life in this situation. What keeps me going? Knowing that there is a good chance that if I take my girls away from their father, they will have their OWN issues with abandonment and seeking male approval, and the cycle would continue for another generation. They could seek early sexual experiences or choose the right man in looking for male relationships. I am doing all that I can to ensure that they have a happy, wonderful childhood, as he is a good father. I hope that the girls can break the chain of addiction that has cursed his family for many, many years. (And that I can break the chain of co-dependency, work-aholic, control freak behavior that I've employed because I didn't have the courage to leave him when I first found out he had a serios problem. We didn't know as much then, and the Internet has exacerbated the problem significantly.) So, my daughters see us as a normal family. We do not argue in front of them (not to say we don't have disagreements) and we do many things as a family to give them a strong foundation. If I do leave him in the future, my goal is that it will be after they have formed solid relationships with their own partners, and the news will have a less detrimental effect on their psyche. But, like I said, if I knew then what I know now... my life would be much different. |
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Re: Email/chat group/IM tracing
From: cute21-ga on 19 Jun 2004 09:32 PDT |
I do agree with the one commented before. No need to follow him. The relationship on the internet is not such serious, just for sharing idea and relaxing. Some people like me using it to network with old friends and work. No need to trace him!! Don't be worry. |
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Re: Email/chat group/IM tracing
From: disndat-ga on 29 Jun 2004 03:57 PDT |
It seems that every answer so far is destined to ruin the relationship, or lead to long term resentment and hostility. Spying, snooping, ignoring or accepting the burden for the sake of your children all seem like ways to end up unhappy and alone in spirit. Another angle would be to let your husband know that you are curious about him and his computer time, and try to let him know that whatever is happening, you'd like "in" on it, and would accept anything with an open mind, and go from there. You may find that it is much more trivial than you thought, or it may break your heart with confirmation, but it does leave the door open to actually grow a stronger relationship, and to feel better about yourself. Theres a good chance that he feels that what he is doing is wrong, or embarrasing, or unacceptable by you, any of which could give rise to his need for secrecy. He may want to, or be willing to, share his activity if he felt more secure about the outcome with you. That may be completely off-base, but I think I would rather start with a solution that holds an option for building and growing, and not one that could only ruin the foundation of your marriage. |
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Re: Email/chat group/IM tracing
From: goodalwaysrules-ga on 22 Dec 2004 08:50 PST |
When you want to trace an IM or email, you want results fast and not alot of confusing recommendations. Go to www.abika.com to trace any email, IM, etc., address. It will cost you some minor bucks, but the results are quick, real, and oh so satisfying. Cheaper than hiring a private detective. |
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