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Subject:
Secure Email to Anyone
Category: Computers > Internet Asked by: dvati0n-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
14 Jun 2004 13:04 PDT
Expires: 14 Jul 2004 13:04 PDT Question ID: 360989 |
I am trying to find a way to let a small business (under 50 users) send secure emails to their clients. The problem is that a good deal of the clients have web-based emails. Those that don't have web-based email don't all necessarily use the same client for email either. I am looking for a secure way to send email to anyone, regardless of what client they are using for email...whether it be AOL, MSN, Exchange or Lotus etc. If it makes a difference we use Exchange 2000 here with Outlook 2000 as the client software. |
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Subject:
Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: crythias-ga on 14 Jun 2004 17:10 PDT |
Hello, dvati0n-ga! The short answer: yes. Among many other means, PGP is a very popular way to encrypt messages securely. It does require software on the part of the recipient, unless you send a self-decrypting email. If you send a self-decrypting email, the clients need to know the password. Whoever knows the password, can open the email. If you send a PGP encrypted email, the recipients can only open the email with their private encryption key(software). I've used PGP in the past. I have successfully sent and received secure messages. For more info: www.pgp.com (PGP Personal which integrates with Outlook 2000 is $59 US) It should be noted that there is an Open Source version of PGP called GPG/GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/index.html which can be installed for free, and a plugin for outlook is available as well. http://www3.gdata.de/gpg/download.html (click the UK/English flag) The setup for the GPL'd (free as in freedom, and this case free as in beer) software isn't as polished as the $59 software, but YGWPF. I can't vouch for either piece as it's been several years and a few versions ago. Search strategy: (personal knowledge of PGP and GPG) and gnupg in outlook 2000 |
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Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: dvati0n-ga on 15 Jun 2004 03:48 PDT |
How would PGP be used with a client getting their email through web-based email like Yahoo or Hotmail? |
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Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: josh_g-ga on 15 Jun 2004 06:38 PDT |
You can only do secure email properly if the receiving end supports the encryption standard you're using. As far as I know, most of the major webmail providers don't include built-in encryption / decryption support. You could, in theory, take the encrypted email and decrypt it locally on your PC, but for the average user that would be too awkward, too difficult, or both. On a related note, you might want to take a look at Hushmail. They offer a complete secure webmail package which handles key generation and storage for you. (You'll want to use a very secure password to compensate for the fact that they store the keys.) They also offer business packages for secure instant-messaging and other secure communication services. http://www.hushmail.com |
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Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: crythias-ga on 15 Jun 2004 07:13 PDT |
dvati0n - The decryption at the webmail end would be a select-copy-decrypt from clipboard thing. Yes, hushmail is good, although it would mean that clients must have a hushmail account for full security, right? (from the "About Us" page: when one Hush user communicates with another Hush user, the circuit is complete and the mail they send is completely safe) And, btw hushmail uses Open PGP which is essentially the same concept as mentioned above. (This is not a negative, it's actually a recommendation). Brief synopsis: PGP works on key pairs. A public key which everyone can have, and a private key, which only you have. To be effective, one encrypts a document with the recipient's public key so only the recipient can open it with the matching private key. The message is useless without the proper key combination, and unless you self-encrypt, even you won't be able to open your encrypted message. |
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Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: owain-ga on 15 Jun 2004 11:58 PDT |
Could you send a password-protected, encrypted, PDF file to your recipients? They would need Acrobat reader but that is widely available. Of course, you still have to find some secure way of sending them the password separately ... Owain |
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Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: dvati0n-ga on 15 Jun 2004 14:06 PDT |
"The decryption at the webmail end would be a select-copy-decrypt from clipboard thing." cynthias, could you expand on this process? It seems PGP would be a great option for users of clients like Outlook (I had PGP in mind at first as well...). But because I didnt think PGP could be of any use to webmail users, I stopped considering it as an option. If you could expand on how a webmail user would take advantage of PGP, that would be most helpful. owain, interesting idea. I might consider that as a last resort. |
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Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: crythias-ga on 15 Jun 2004 16:33 PDT |
dvati0n, I'm basing this answer on PGPFreeware 7.0.3, which is the version I installed at least 1 year ago. This is the above message encrypted to myself: -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> qANQR1DBwU4Dn4y7s7JgGmUQB/9+L0LeEbUPu1Nrz4x+EHw60SI6Zxuwcyb2Y+Gf dEHfVWKAAQgiIzv9AZI9stNqzqpabY49T78GgQ9b+OqNPARS2JXpEl0hsn08LwLb f0MB7y27LErjT49GjSDSwE06Fy1/cEYTdPOlDrT9EVNviPfLMt1JUclj++EfWnJ1 /lBcqswaFbba9N+tqnz90Mb8ByfYdmx8TumIFvA8wyG6HylE8q9yBsAZimTcQ/uL 1E0wLaLXFoKFvkSadgUdTMfMCVbNLRpxp0NyAYCsDMQOrPojb9wicGUzWcczgQh/ d5Yd4d5SR12mD1u81FZaueDPdpsEegAH+03kOvkeWrLWURTzCACwPZIjUQ4NlIX4 n6M3y/rdbGTgkXLR2LtizLzVuxMUa4EA5gyotkVFH26I/1fxYOgWTs0xJXzLnAJG qO1CejL4OBy8K++n3t2hbBagLc0n2G+2PEg9QKZcm/assklQKlublRnoefnnhRF0 5xhCupukQcZJEefF9ld1u7M2zmB6TPLz6Jpo1veA8W2JBTy3VdENIh+xTkaWnTjq aPOQAiE8UCw7Xx5XZ1h9Ztd4ri7bANNXI12L98CCrE0kDp1AsdLuZ+IIUHPLXclE CZZsj+8ftHky+zPj4eT/ApP/0kolSeo1az5XD1uqCa94iD7I0tsXdJh6ih7uKO+7 iUeu+M73yXWLo1/cI4ID7coFhx02P219+XhSO2cXimrLFn3oOYWM47MJlb9SMVXj cv3qAdEOq6QWyPJPhI+vrxufFdUJy/xnaKSsdhGz9A73zc5vhgD3mzcw5thzbpZd Q9iPjslHTtLyaXS57BsgMdMXtrF8122b1iFFO3s= =CUBW -----END PGP MESSAGE----- Using the PGP Tools, I merely select the text, copy, click the PGP Tools/Decrypt option, and press "Clipboard". Unfortunately, I seem to have misplaced my ancient passphrase, so I created a new keypair. |
Subject:
Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: crythias-ga on 16 Jun 2004 06:44 PDT |
There's an easier way than that, as I've just found out... there is a little icon by the clock. Left click, there's a menu Current Window-> decrypt & verify. Very VERY easy. |
Subject:
Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: crythias-ga on 16 Jun 2004 11:15 PDT |
I forgot to mention that the clients need PGP software installed as well. That was noted above by Answer Researcher josh_g-ga and should not have been glossed over. I thought it was implied in my statements, but as I've read through the comments again, I feel it needs to be said. Hushmail is the best for the price, if you can convince your clients to change email providers just for you. PGP is best for over-all security, and can mean that the clients can have more local possibilities of security besides just communicating. It may be a small price to pay to not have the clients need to change email providers. |
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Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: dvati0n-ga on 16 Jun 2004 12:50 PDT |
After playing with PGP and experimenting with the possibilities, I came here to address just that...that the clients would need PGP as well...and that won't work with 250 clients =) I'll look into hushmail. Seems like there is no easy answer here... |
Subject:
Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: crythias-ga on 16 Jun 2004 15:09 PDT |
Send self decrypting and have them call for password? :) |
Subject:
Re: Secure Email to Anyone
From: ralfhauser-ga on 08 Jul 2004 22:40 PDT |
have a look at http://privasphere.com - this service has a seamless way to integrate web-mail users with pgp/gnupg or x509 i.e. SMIME certs and plain TLS/SSL enabled mail programs such as outlook |
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