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Q: Would google have banned by website? ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: Would google have banned by website?
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: jamie_scott-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 15 Jun 2004 14:30 PDT
Expires: 15 Jul 2004 14:30 PDT
Question ID: 361555
Hi there,

About two months ago I sent up a new website for a client
[], at the same time my client signed up for
google adwords and we registered the site with

For some reason this site (although visited regularly by google) does
not seem to list at all and has a rating of 0?

People have told but that a site can be banned but how do I find out
if this has occured and why? As far as I'm aware I havent done anything
wrong and am now left with quite an unhappy client..

Any help would be appreciated.



Clarification of Question by jamie_scott-ga on 15 Jun 2004 14:33 PDT
Installing google tool bar the PAGERANK is WHITE and 0/10 importance.
Subject: Re: Would google have banned by website?
Answered By: serenata-ga on 16 Jun 2004 12:28 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Hi Jamie ~

The good news is that you site isn't banned and does appear in Google's index.

Perform a search for the domain,, produces
the following results:

  "Vehicle Tracking, Fleet management GPS systems, SimplyTrak from ...
   Vehicle Tracking with Creative Cellular Solutions Ltd, ...

   Google can show you the following information for this URL:

    * Show Google's cache of
    * Find web pages that are similar to
    * Find web pages that link to
    * Find web pages that contain the term
   - ://

In addition, if you enter allinurl: in
Google's search box, you will see that all of your pages are included
in the index.
   - ://

The bad news is that your site doesn't appear in the first few hundred
results for search terms such as "vehicle tracking" and others you
have listed in your keyword metatags.

Your site is relatively new (under two months old), and ranking higher
in search engine results pages (SERPs) takes time to move up to any
appreciable position.

It also helps to understand that Google's intention is to present the
most relevant pages in return for a search query. (See "Google Today"
in the links provided below).

This relevancy is measured by Google's closely-guarded algorithms (See
"PageRank Information in the links provided below), but sites which
rank well in SERPs usually have rich content relevant to a searcher's
queries, relevant links TO the site (that is, links other than a page
of links from other sites), and good, visitor-friendly, user-friendly

While there are links TO your site, the majority of them are nothing
more than a list of links to similar vehicle tracking sites - which
are not considered to be the ultimate type of links, and in some cases
is even considered a scheme or link farm, which Google specifically
warns against in Google's "Quality Guidelines - Basic principles",

     "Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase
      your site's ranking or PageRank ..."
   - ://

and from Google's explanation of why your site might not be listed,

     "... certain actions such as ... setting up pages/
      links with the sole purpose of fooling search engines
      may result in permanent removal from our index."
   - ://

It's not hard to come to the conclusion this may be a linking scheme
or agreement, especially with your own page, "Vehicle Tracking Website

While these links are noted, it is pretty well accepted that their
contribution to your Google PageRank or your position in SERPs is
minimal, simply because too many webmasters abused the system with
pages of links or reciprocal links, simply to try to increase their
SERPs positioning.

Links from other sites - especially on pages that are nothing more
than a page full of links, would do you much more good than only
having the links there are to your site now.

The clue to placing well, especially for competitive search terms, is
to have sites from relevant sites link to yours in a contextual

To understand this better, I would recommend taking a look at Jill
Whalen's High Rankings forum,

and particularly at discussion threads under "Optimization Tips &
Techniques" and "Link Building". There is valuable information on how
to achieve your goals.

As for your rank of 0 on the Google Toolbar, that is not unusual,
especially for newer websites with few or no relevant links to their
own webpages. But you may have noticed that it is not necessarily
important to SERPs positions, as there are often sites with little or
no links to their own site, but highly relevant content.

It helps to understand Google's position that their responsibility is
to the searcher, not to website owners. It is incumbent on the
webmaster to produce a website which is relevant.

Important Google Links For Your Reference

I am including important links from Google's site.

This information will help you understand Google's goals and
responsibility to the web searcher (and not the webmaster or site

Webmasters who follow the guidelines and avoid Google's "Thou shalt
nots" usually have no problem getting listed and showing up under the
search terms they desire.

   * Google Today (absolutely the best information you
     can read about the "how and why" of Google's results
     - ://

   * How Do I Get My Site Listed on Google?
     - ://

   * My Web Pages Are Not Currently Listed (a good 'primer'
     on how and why Google works so well)
     - ://

   * PageRank Information (covers both Google's PageRank and
     - ://

   * Webmaster Guidelines (contains both the dos and don'ts)
     - ://

   * Google Facts & Fiction (can  you buy your way to a
     high ranking in Google?)
     - ://

   * Search Engine Optimizers (some good advice on what to look
     for if you're going to hire a Search Engine Optimizer)
     - ://

   * Frequently Asked Questions (pretty much what it says, but
     definitely worth wading through)
     - ://

   * Remove Content from Google's Index (just in case you feel
     a burning need to start all over again)
     - ://


Your site isn't banned from Google, or it wouldn't show up in a search
for the domain,

Trying to collect links to raise that PageRank number in Google's
toolbar is missing the point. A user-friendly design and links from
relevant sources which are not merely on a whole page full of links
are more valuable in your SERPs placement.

Building links takes time ... but it can be done and will be more
advantageous those pages presently containing links to your site.

Search Terms ~

Besides site-specific searches mentioned above, I relied on bookmarks
to reliable resources and information I refer to daily in the course
of business.

I trust this answers your question.


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jamie_scott-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Really fantastic feedback! This is the first time that I have used
Google Answers and was just expecting a short reponse (if at all).

Many thanks to Serenata, a real eye opener!.. Keep up the good work.

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