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If imortality exists
Category: Science > Biology Asked by: burnettbp-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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16 Jun 2004 18:28 PDT
Expires: 16 Jul 2004 18:28 PDT Question ID: 362211 |
Exists imortality. I want to live forever. How much it is ? Will be available in the future ? |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: pinkfreud-ga on 16 Jun 2004 19:53 PDT |
Here's an excellent book on the subject: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0618095241/ |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: pugwashjw-ga on 16 Jun 2004 22:16 PDT |
Hi Burnettbp. I does not at the moment , but it will. Not through any efforts that medical science makes, but through God. O.K., I know many will say " What hogwash" , but without the promises made in the Bible, what a miserable future we face. It does involve having faith in what the Bible promises, but the GOOD BOOK has been around for quite a while. Immortality is the absence of death. The ceasing of all functions of life. Death is the opposite of life. Why does man die?. Adam, in the Bible, was meant to live forever, but sinned, was thrown out of the garden, lived a finite life and died. Romans 6;23.."for the wages sin pays is death". Romans 5;12.." That is why, just as through one man [Adam] sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because they had all sinned". When we die, our sins are cancelled. Romans 6;7.."For he who has died has been acquitted from his sin". Will we always be born, grow old and die?. The Bible says no!. There is a limit. Revelation 21;4.."And He will wipe out every tear from their eyes, AND DEATH WILL BE NO MORE, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore, the former things have passed away". This scripture can only apply to people still living on the earth. Only living friends mourn the death of anyone. Only living people experience pain. If we all go to heaven when we die, which we DO NOT, there to enjoy immortality with no death and no pain, then it would be pointless for God to promise any change to those still living on the earth. The reason that God has allowed men to suffer death for so long [ from our point of view] is to give us the chance to try out every social and political system we can think of, none of which have been successful, and come to the realisation that we need God`s guidance. Jeremiah 10;23..I well know, Oh Jehovah, [ God`s name]that to earthling man his way does not belong,. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step". And haven`t we proved that!. All the rules for living the life that God wants us to live are set out in the Bible and if we do our utmost to follow them without adding bits and pieces, like mainstream religion has done, we may be allowed to live on without death. Zephaniah 2;3.."Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, who have practised His own judicial decision. Seek righteousness, seek meekness, PROBABLY you may be concealed in the day of Jehovah`s ANGER". YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!. |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: hailstorm-ga on 16 Jun 2004 22:57 PDT |
Infinite life will be available at some point in the infinite future, at a price of approximately infinite dollars. But why would you want to live forever? Nothing else lasts forever, so you'll just be setting yourself for a life of either infinite heartbreak or infinite boredom. |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: politicalguru-ga on 17 Jun 2004 01:03 PDT |
Apparently, it is not that much fun: "Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged was --indeed, is - one of the Universe's very small number of immortal beings. Those who are born immortal instinctively know how to cope with it, but Wowbagger was not one of them. Indeed he had come to hate them, the load of serene bastards. He had had his immortality thrust upon him by an unfortunate accident with an irrational particle accelerator, a liquid lunch and a pair of rubber bands. The precise details of the accident are not important because no one has ever managed to duplicate the exact circumstances under which it happened, and many people have ended up looking very silly, or dead, or both, trying. Wowbagger closed his eyes in a grim and weary expression, put some light jazz on the ship's stereo, and reflected that he could have made it if it hadn't been for Sunday afternoons, he really could have done. To begin with it was fun, he had a ball, living dangerously, taking risks, cleaning up on high-yield long-term investments, and just generally outliving the hell out of everybody. In the end, it was the Sunday afternoons he couldn't cope with, and that terrible listlessness which starts to set in at about 2.55, when you know that you've had all the baths you can usefully have that day, that however hard you stare at any given paragraph in the papers you will never actually read it, or use the revolutionary new pruning technique it describes, and that as you stare at the clock the hands will move relentlessly on to four o'clock, and you will enter the long dark teatime of the soul. So things began to pall for him. The merry smiles he used to wear at other people's funerals began to fade. He began to despise the Universe in general, and everyone in it in particular. This was the point at which he conceived his purpose, the thing which would drive him on, and which, as far as he could see, would drive him on forever. It was this. He would insult the Universe. That is, he would insult everybody in it. Individually, personally, one by one, and (this was the thing he really decided to grit his teeth over) in alphabetical order. When people protested to him, as they sometimes had done, that the plan was not merely misguided but actually impossible because of the number of people being born and dying all the time, he would merely fix them with a steely look and say, "A man can dream can't he?" (From: Douglas Adams , "Life, the Universe, and Everything"). |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: pugwashjw-ga on 17 Jun 2004 05:57 PDT |
for Hailstorm; Do you have a favourite food? Even though you would not want to eat it every day, you surely eat it on a regular basis. Living forever and the present condition of this present world are not compatible. Even I would not like to forever wake up to killing, stealing, war and general mayhem. I would very much like to sail the world in nice conditions, weatherwise and political. But then in a perfect world there will be no governments as we now know them. Just everyone obeying God`s simple rules. Also there would not be much point in studying to be a doctor..there will be no sickness. The Bible promises that nothing will cause harm to anything. Men and animals will become vegetarians. Isaiah 11; 6-10 speaks about the wolf living with the young lamb, the maned young lion with the calf, and a little boy as leader. .."and even the lion will eat straw just like the bull"...verse 9 states"They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in ALL my holy mountain. verse 12 says " And He will certainly raise up a signal for the nations and gather the dispersed ones of Israel. and the scattered ones of Judah He will collect together from the four extremities of the earth". These are not just the Jews, because Jesus took his message also to the gentiles [ all other peoples ] So it must apply to any person who is doing what God approves. Its up to us to learn what is required from the scriptures to earn our place in the coming new system where we will live forever. We might even be allowed to travel to the stars. Much more fun than sitting on a cloud with a harp, which anyway is not true!. |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: ade3ada-ga on 17 Jun 2004 12:19 PDT |
The problem with being immortal is that there can be only One... In other words, you better start practicing your swordfighting. On a slightly more serious note, I vaguely remember reading somewhere (Probably Discover magazine) that some scientists believed that aging and cancer were related. They managed to genetically engineer some mice to live longer, but they had very high rates of cancer. I think this is the article: http://www.discover.com/issues/jul-92/departments/thelazarusmice86/ but you need to subscribe to read it. Maybe someone else wants to find a related story... |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: hailstorm-ga on 17 Jun 2004 17:56 PDT |
Of course, another thing to consider is that living forever technically does not start from any one point, but requires you to be everywhere on the timeline. That means that to be truly immortal, you must not only exist into the endless future, you must also have been in existance throughout the entire endless past. Therefore, something can't "become" immortal. It either is or it isn't, and is always that way. |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: justed-ga on 25 Jun 2004 22:17 PDT |
YES... they have already found the gene which causes ageing - so it's probably available now. But why would you want to? Most of us want kids - if we all live forever what happens to the development of mankind, no more kids, no more genetic development? Ed |
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Re: If imortality exists
From: erick2-ga on 29 Jun 2004 12:26 PDT |
examine cancer cells for the answer |
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