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Subject: If imortality exists
Category: Science > Biology
Asked by: burnettbp-ga
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Posted: 16 Jun 2004 18:28 PDT
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Question ID: 362211
Exists imortality. I want to live forever. How much it is ? Will be
available in the future ?
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Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: pinkfreud-ga on 16 Jun 2004 19:53 PDT
 
Here's an excellent book on the subject:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0618095241/
Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: pugwashjw-ga on 16 Jun 2004 22:16 PDT
 
Hi Burnettbp. I does not at the moment , but it will. Not through any
efforts that medical science makes, but through God. O.K., I know many
will say " What hogwash" , but without the promises made in the Bible,
what a miserable future we face. It does involve having faith in what
the Bible promises, but the GOOD BOOK has been around for quite a
while. Immortality is the absence of death. The ceasing of all
functions of life. Death is the opposite of life. Why does man die?.
Adam, in the Bible, was meant to live forever, but sinned, was thrown
out of the garden, lived a finite life and died. Romans 6;23.."for the
wages sin pays is death". Romans 5;12.." That is why, just as through
one man [Adam] sin entered into the world and death through sin, and
thus death spread to all men, because they had all sinned". When we
die, our sins are cancelled. Romans 6;7.."For he who has died has been
acquitted from his sin". Will we always be born, grow old and die?.
The Bible says no!. There is a limit. Revelation 21;4.."And He will
wipe out every tear from their eyes, AND DEATH WILL BE NO MORE,
neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore, the former
things have passed away". This scripture can only apply to people
still living on the earth. Only living friends mourn the death of
anyone. Only living people experience pain. If we all go to heaven
when we die, which we DO NOT, there to enjoy immortality with no death
and no pain, then it would be pointless for God to promise any change
to those still living on the earth. The reason that God has allowed
men to suffer death for so long [ from our point of view] is to give
us the chance to try out every social and political system we can
think of, none of which have been successful,  and come to the
realisation that we need God`s guidance. Jeremiah 10;23..I well know,
Oh Jehovah, [ God`s name]that to earthling man his way does not
belong,. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his
step". And haven`t we proved that!. All the rules for living the life
that God wants us to live are set out in the Bible and if we do our
utmost to follow them without adding bits and pieces, like mainstream
religion has done, we may be allowed to live on without death.
Zephaniah 2;3.."Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, who have
practised His own judicial decision. Seek righteousness, seek
meekness, PROBABLY you may be concealed in the day of Jehovah`s
ANGER". YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!.
Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: hailstorm-ga on 16 Jun 2004 22:57 PDT
 
Infinite life will be available at some point in the infinite future,
at a price of approximately infinite dollars.

But why would you want to live forever?  Nothing else lasts forever,
so you'll just be setting yourself for a life of either infinite
heartbreak or infinite boredom.
Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: politicalguru-ga on 17 Jun 2004 01:03 PDT
 
Apparently, it is not that much fun: 

"Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged was --indeed, is - one of  the
Universe's very small number of immortal beings.
 
Those who are born immortal instinctively know how to  cope  with
it, but Wowbagger was not one of them. Indeed he had come to hate
them, the load of serene bastards. He  had  had  his  immortality
thrust  upon  him  by  an unfortunate accident with an irrational
particle accelerator, a liquid lunch and a pair of rubber  bands.
The  precise details of the accident are not important because no
one has ever managed to duplicate the exact  circumstances  under
which  it  happened,  and  many people have ended up looking very
silly, or dead, or both, trying.
 
Wowbagger closed his eyes in a grim  and  weary  expression,  put
some light jazz on the ship's stereo, and reflected that he could
have made it if it hadn't been for Sunday afternoons,  he  really
could have done.
 
To begin with it was fun, he  had  a  ball,  living  dangerously,
taking  risks,  cleaning  up on high-yield long-term investments,
and just generally outliving the hell out of everybody.
 
In the end, it was the Sunday afternoons he couldn't  cope  with,
and  that  terrible  listlessness which starts to set in at about
2.55, when you know  that  you've  had  all  the  baths  you  can
usefully  have that day, that however hard you stare at any given
paragraph in the papers you will never actually read it,  or  use
the revolutionary new pruning technique it describes, and that as
you stare at the clock the hands will  move  relentlessly  on  to
four  o'clock,  and  you  will enter the long dark teatime of the
soul.
 
So things began to pall for him. The merry smiles he used to wear
at other people's funerals began to fade. He began to despise the
Universe in general, and everyone in it in particular.
 
This was the point at which he conceived his purpose,  the  thing
which  would  drive  him  on,  and which, as far as he could see,
would drive him on forever. It was this.
 
He would insult the Universe.
 
That  is,  he  would  insult  everybody  in   it.   Individually,
personally, one by one, and (this was the thing he really decided
to grit his teeth over) in alphabetical order.
 
When people protested to him, as they sometimes  had  done,  that
the plan was not merely misguided but actually impossible because
of the number of people being born and dying  all  the  time,  he
would  merely  fix  them  with  a steely look and say, "A man can
dream can't he?"

(From: Douglas Adams , "Life, the Universe, and Everything").
Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: pugwashjw-ga on 17 Jun 2004 05:57 PDT
 
for Hailstorm; Do you have a favourite food? Even though you would not
want to eat it every day, you surely eat it on a regular basis. Living
forever and the present condition of this present world are not
compatible. Even I would not like to forever wake up to killing,
stealing, war and general mayhem. I would very much like to sail the
world in nice conditions, weatherwise and political. But then in a
perfect world there will be no governments as we now know them. Just
everyone obeying God`s simple rules. Also there would not be much
point in studying to be a doctor..there will be no sickness. The Bible
promises that nothing will cause harm to anything. Men and animals
will become vegetarians. Isaiah 11; 6-10 speaks about the wolf living
with the young lamb, the maned young lion with the calf, and a little
boy as leader. .."and even the lion will eat straw just like the
bull"...verse 9 states"They will not do any harm or cause any ruin in
ALL my holy mountain. verse 12 says " And He will certainly raise up a
signal for the nations and gather the dispersed ones of Israel. and
the scattered ones of Judah He will collect together from the four
extremities of the earth". These are not just the Jews, because Jesus
took his message also to the gentiles [ all other peoples ] So it must
apply to any person who is doing what God approves. Its up to us to
learn what is required from the scriptures to earn our place in the
coming new system where we will live forever. We might even be allowed
to travel to the stars. Much more fun than sitting on a cloud with a
harp, which anyway is not true!.
Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: ade3ada-ga on 17 Jun 2004 12:19 PDT
 
The problem with being immortal is that there can be only One... In
other words, you better start practicing your swordfighting.

On a slightly more serious note, I vaguely remember reading somewhere
(Probably Discover magazine) that some scientists believed that aging
and cancer were related. They managed to genetically engineer some
mice to live longer, but they had very high rates of cancer. I think
this is the article:
http://www.discover.com/issues/jul-92/departments/thelazarusmice86/
but you need to subscribe to read it. Maybe someone else wants to find
a related story...
Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: hailstorm-ga on 17 Jun 2004 17:56 PDT
 
Of course, another thing to consider is that living forever
technically does not start from any one point, but requires you to be
everywhere on the timeline.  That means that to be truly immortal, you
must not only exist into the endless future, you must also have been
in existance throughout the entire endless past.

Therefore, something can't "become" immortal.  It either is or it
isn't, and is always that way.
Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: justed-ga on 25 Jun 2004 22:17 PDT
 
YES... they have already found the gene which causes ageing - so it's
probably available now.

But why would you want to?  Most of us want kids - if we all live
forever what happens to the development of mankind, no more kids, no
more genetic development?

Ed
Subject: Re: If imortality exists
From: erick2-ga on 29 Jun 2004 12:26 PDT
 
examine cancer cells for the answer

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