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| Subject:
Stolen money
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: marko_ga-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
22 Jun 2004 08:12 PDT
Expires: 22 Jul 2004 08:12 PDT Question ID: 364520 |
Hi, I'm student from Europe (now in California) - so please excuse my weak english. A month and half ago insurance company called "E-RENTER Plan" took money ($96) from my checking account (Bank of America). There was no reason for it since I have NO agreement with them. As soon as I found out what happend, I sent them email and they told me, that it was a mistake. I just had to call them and cancel the insurance policy (which isn't mine!!!) - they promised to give my money back. Unfortunately, I wanted to know how they get to my bank account and take money without my permission, so I didn't call and send another email. They told me, that they're not going to read my emails anymore. So I called them. First I gave them the policy number and I wanted to cancel the policy so they told me, that my name isn't on the agreement and I can't to cancel anything. Then I asked why they took money and they told me, that I AM on the policy(!!!). So I wanted to cancel that and they said "U can't - you aren't on the policy"........ Now I have copy of the original agreement and there isn't my name. I just paid 1st payment for my friends with my personal check. So, what happend is that they took my account information from my personal check and after one year they went to my bank an took money without my permission. I wanted to ask: a) is it a crime? b) is there any legal way how to sue them for this? (It's not about 96 dollars, but about principles) Thank you. |
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| Subject:
Re: Stolen money
From: vballguy-ga on 22 Jun 2004 09:06 PDT |
You were not very clear in your post, but from what I understand, 1) You paid the first installment on an insurance policy for a friend with a check. 2) The insurance company directly debited the second installment from your checking account without your permission using the information from the first check you gave them. This is called an EFT (Electronic Funds Transfer) or ACH (Automated Clearing House). 3) We have no idea what was signed or in the insurance contract....There might have been something there about them automatically pulling your payment. If you can tell us who your bank is, (just the name no other information is neccesary). Someone can probably find their fraud policy. In most cases, you have a very short amount of time to report the fraud. Here is a general overview of EFT rules. http://www.bankersonline.com/regs/205/205.html Here is a good review of liability for a place called intelifunds- your bank probably has something similar http://www.intellefunds.com/faq/205-6.html What you need to do is call your bank asap and tell them you have an unauthorized EFT transfer from your account and ask them what your options are. |
| Subject:
Re: Stolen money
From: poconobert-ga on 22 Jun 2004 09:09 PDT |
file a complaint with the state attorney general:
http://caag.state.ca.us/consumers/mailform.htm
Also with the california department of insurance
http://www.insurance.ca.gov/docs/FS-ConsumerHotline.htm
Also with the bank and make sure to 'cc' the insurance company.
Good luck. |
| Subject:
Re: Stolen money
From: probonopublico-ga on 22 Jun 2004 11:01 PDT |
Forget suing. That would cost you LOTS unless you can get a lwayer to handle your case on a Contingency Fee basis but the amount is too small to interest anybody. Follow the advice given in the earlier Comments & Good Luck! |
| Subject:
Re: Stolen money
From: marko_ga-ga on 22 Jun 2004 15:01 PDT |
vballguy, I paid first installment for my friends (it's their insurance contract) more then year ago ($96 per year). They didn't have own bank account. Money stolen from my checking account was for another year (but I DONT have a contract with insurance company). What more - my friends PAID for this year already. So, E-Renter Plan took money from me and from them too. My bank is Bank of America. I told them, that my money was stolen but they told me, that (after "investigation") there is an agreement between me and E-Renter Plan (but there's nothing!!!). There is something about automatic payments on the contract, but like I said - it's not my contract and there isn't my name or signature there. THANK YOU |
| Subject:
Re: Stolen money
From: vballguy-ga on 22 Jun 2004 22:28 PDT |
I can't find the policy, but call bank of america again and state clearly that you did not authorize that transaction and have no relationship with the other company and that you want to offically protest that debit from your account. If they claim that they can do nothing, ask to talk to a supervisor and again make very clear that you have no relationship with that company and did not authorize any transaction. If they say otherwise, request copies of any documen. Further ask that since you have no relationship with them, what are your alternative. |
| Subject:
Re: Stolen money
From: probonopublico-ga on 22 Jun 2004 23:03 PDT |
Aha! It's become clearer ... This is one of the Dangers of paying by Credit Card. Once a CC is used for part of a series of payments the provider can assume that it can be used for the rest and there's NOTHING that the CC Issuer can do about it. The best way to stop this happening is talk to the CC issuer and ask for their advice. Obviously, the Insurer has no right to be paid twice, so talk to them as well. If nobody will play ball then you've got a cause celebre. Fortunately, it's not a lot of dough but - What the Hell? - it's your money, not theirs. You play Bloody Hell and please let us know how you get on. Again ... Best of Luck! |
| Subject:
Re: Stolen money
From: chinnasue58-ga on 24 Jun 2004 17:54 PDT |
I had this happen to me once (different bank, though). My friend (who
didn't have a bank account) gave me cash and I paid his bill with a
check-by-phone. A few months later, the company debited my bank
account for another $150!
I called my bank and they sent me a form to dispute the charge. I
just had to check the appropriate box on the form ("I did not
authorize this charge.") and the bank reversed it.
The bank is in the best position to resolve this issue with the
company, since they're the only ones with the authority to debit your
money right back from the insurance company. |
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