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Q: Search engine optimisation ( Answered 4 out of 5 stars,   2 Comments )
Subject: Search engine optimisation
Category: Computers
Asked by: joeges-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 23 Jun 2004 04:59 PDT
Expires: 23 Jul 2004 04:59 PDT
Question ID: 364981
my site get zero backwards links on Google ie when
you use the Google search toolbar. I have listed the site in many
locations why is it I get no backwards links?
Subject: Re: Search engine optimisation
Answered By: aceresearcher-ga on 24 Jun 2004 14:14 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
Greetings, joeges!

First, I want to mention that, because the Google searching and
indexing algorithms are secret and proprietary, nothing can be stated
"for sure" and "for every single link". The information that is
"known" has been developed by persistent webmasters who spend most of
their time studying Google Search Results and tweaking web pages to
see what effect their changes have on Page Rank and Search Engine
Results Ranking. Therefore, this information is purely speculative
(although there appears to be some real degree of accuracy to a lot of

Because of Google's secrecy, it is not known for absolute certain, but
the general consensus among experienced webmasters who have
extensively studied Google's "backward links" function pretty much
agree that the link: function will only return pages with a Rank of 4
or higher:
From Senior Forum Member "Birdman" at WebmasterWorld:      
"It is thought that Google only shows backlinks from pages that have a
pr4 or higher."

Bear in mind that the Page Rank which matters is the Page Rank of the
page which *contains the link to your site*, not the PR of the site's
Home Page. There is not a lot that you can do to affect the linking
page's PR. The best you can do is get your site link put on a page
that already has a PR4 or higher.

However, there is one good way to pull up a list of a *LOT* more sites
that contain your URL than just those returned by a Google "link to"

If you enter your URL into the Google search text box and click
"Google Search", something like this usually comes up:

Phones4Sale - Phones4Sale - Mobile phones and accessories
Phones4Sale?s only focus is to sell mobile phones & accessories outright - we
keep our overheads low and buy in bulk to deliver our customers the lowest ... 

Google can show you the following information for this URL:

Show Google's cache of 
Find web pages that are similar to 
Find web pages that link to 
Find web pages that contain the term "" <==

As you're probably aware, clicking on "link to" in the
next-to-the-bottom line will provide the Search Results for a "link:"
command with the URL string you entered -- showing only those pages
with a high-enough ranking to be included (in this case, Google
returns no results).

... if you click on "contain the term" in the last line, you should
get a list of ALL the web pages Google has indexed that include the
URL string you entered (in this case, Google returns "Results 1 - 10
of about 134").

Note that most of the results are from your own site; you can
eliminate them by using the following search (Results 1 - 16 of 16):


Notice, if you leave off the "www", Google may find even more pages
(Results 1 - 17 of 17):


This is because there is at least one page that refers to your
business as merely "". Be aware that links like this
will not contribute to the Page Rank of your site: if you want these
pages to be factored into the calculation of your Page Rank by the
Googlebot, you will need to write to the webmasters of each of these
sites requesting that they change the reference to

Before Rating my Answer, if you have any Questions about the above
information, please post a Request for Clarification, and I will see
what I can do for you.

I hope that this Answer provides exactly the information you were seeking!


joeges-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $4.00
was very helpfull

Subject: Re: Search engine optimisation
From: justanaveragenewbie-ga on 23 Jun 2004 23:02 PDT
How recently did you list the site in the other locations?  

The GoogleBot as far as I know, does not instantaneously detect every
change on the internet instantly.
Subject: Re: Search engine optimisation
From: joeges-ga on 24 Jun 2004 01:04 PDT
About a week ago

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