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Child Support in California
Category: Relationships and Society > Law Asked by: usaycheez-ga List Price: $100.00 |
Posted:
24 Jun 2004 10:58 PDT
Expires: 24 Jul 2004 10:58 PDT Question ID: 365690 |
Can I receive child support for my son since I received no support of any kind, wasn't able to work for medical reasons, had no income at all except the retirement fund I had saved ? If so, how do I go about it or, if not, what is the legal reason? We share 50/50 custody. I was afraid to ask him for financial help as it makes him angry and I feel guilty. In fact,whatever I do, I want to do the best I can to make sure its done properly/legally as well as without hostility. I see he is easily frustrated with our son and don't want to "fuel the fire" in case there is any correlation between the two. Currently I am in dire straights: lost my apartment, medical plan, and am selling personal belongings while living with my son in one room and always bordering on moving into my car. I took a part-time job which amounts to approx. $720 a month. Its a start and best I can do right now though I have higher ambitions. My former husband has an excellent attorney who seems to elicit feelings of fear and submission from my attorney who, like my husband, saw all this happening in my life and my son's, but took no action despite hopeful but not assertive requests/hints since January. One final fact: when I recently called for advice from City/Gov't Dept of Child Support I was connected with the D.A. who said "by all means" I should be receiving child support under these circumstances. I guess that phone call mentioned in passing when I next asked ex for help made a difference though I still have no written agreement, check stubs or salary/benefits info, no proof I am receiving correct amount (he attempted to hide almost $30k during divorce - thatI know of)and am told I will get the June allotment after the end of June when his sales commissions are accounted for. Meanwhile, I can't pay bills or buy food. I can use the procedes from personal belongings to raise $850 - should I use it to pay an attorney ?is this the best approach ? If I need one I want one that will stand up to former husbands attorney..how can I find that attorney? |
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Re: Child Support in California
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 24 Jun 2004 12:09 PDT |
Dear usaycheez-ga; Thank you for allowing me to answer your interesting question. Keep in mind that our forum here is not intended to function as or take the place of legal advice. One is always better off to consult a licensed practicing attorney about legal matters. Now, having mentioned al that legal stuff let?s get on to your questions: . . . . . . . ?Can I receive child support for my son since I received no support of any kind, wasn't able to work for medical reasons, had no income at all except the retirement fund I had saved ?? The short answer to your question is ?YES?. Anyone, whether they are in an adverse financial situation or financially comfortable, CAN theoretically get support from an ex-spouse provided your case is convincing enough to the court to necessitate such an order. On the other hand, to address your situation specifically, it is not uncommon fro a family court to review a case when circumstances dramatically change (i.e., very safe and stable to very unpredictable and unstable) ? especially when the welfare of the child is at issue. In other words, if you can file an order with the court, showing evidence of a substantial and material change in circumstances, the court will undoubtedly investigate the issue and consider your request. . . . . . . . ?If so, how do I go about it or, if not, what is the legal reason?? Short of convincing your ex-spouse to agree to pay support on his own without a court order the only enforceable way to go about it is to notify the jurisdictional court (usually the one that issued the original decree) of the dramatic change in your finances and file a motion to have the original custody and support obligations amended in the interest of welfare of the minor child. You CAN, with some insight into these matters, file the motion on your own without an attorney, but your best bet is to obtain an attorney who is knowledgeable about these issues so he or she can guide you through this process. In my opinion, having had many years of experience in directing people to legal aid resources through my own career in law enforcement, your best move at this point in to contact California Legal Aid (sometimes called California Legal Services). California Legal Services provides free legal assistance to low-income, disenfranchised and indigent families throughout California in a variety of legal matters. Services range from advice-only to full representation in certain cases. At the very least you?d be able to learn more about your specific situation from a legal professional and at best you?d be able to retain a lawyer free of charge to help you with your case. . . . . . . . ?I can use the proceeds from personal belongings to raise $850 - should I use it to pay an attorney? Is this the best approach?? Using Legal Aid, clients do frequently get their attorney?s fee waived because of their impoverished situations but they are often required top pay filing fees or court costs. If you have only a limited amount of financial resources its probably best to hang onto it for now if you can so you will have those funds available to you if you have to pay for these incidental fees related to your case. CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS http://www.dca.ca.gov/r_r/legalso1.htm LEGAL AID ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA (LAAC) http://www.pic.org/laac/laacpage.htm There are also a number of other resources out there where you can potentially obtain free or low cost legal assistance. Here is a directory of agencies and organizations, some of which may very well suit your needs depending on where you are located and what your specific needs are: DIRECTORY OF CALIFORNIA AND NEVADA LEGAL SERVICES PROGRAMS http://www.pic.org/resx/direclsp.htm . . . . . . . "If I need one I want one that will stand up to former husbands attorney?how can I find that attorney? Honestly, there?s no way to know if you can find an attorney who ?will stand up to former husbands attorney? if you don?t ask around ? and even that is no guarantee that you will find one. My guess though is that you probably will if you do the footwork. The only way to answer this for certain is to make some inquires and find out which attorneys are willing to assist you. To do this you might consider using the California Department of Consumer Affairs Legal Aid Lawyer Referral Service, which can greatly reduce the number of potential attorneys down to a workable number and prevent you from having to make hundreds of unnecessary telephone calls. Their web site says this in part: ?Most lawyer referral services charge a low or nominal fee to make an appointment for you to see a lawyer for approximately a half hour. If you decide to hire the lawyer, you will pay the regular attorney fee for the legal work you need. Many lawyer referral services offer specialists in various fields of law, such as personal injury and family law. Many programs have reduced fee plans for people who cannot afford the regular fees. Lawyer referral services are available in most counties in California. They are usually listed in the yellow pages of your local telephone directory under "Attorney Referral Services," "Attorneys," or "Lawyers." CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS LEGAL AID LAWYER REFERRAL SERVICE http://www.dca.ca.gov/r_r/lawrefe1.htm . . . . . . . I think you?d be well off to read these articles related to modifying custody and support orders in California when there us a SUBSTANTIAL AND MATERIAL CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES with one or more parties involved. ?Every Citizen's right to know and use the law - without hiring a lawyer - is fundamental to American Democracy. The law, like any other information, can be broken down and organized into small, easily understandable sections and bits. The 'bits' can then be put together to complete a larger task. Making the process easier is our commitment to the public.? MODIFYING CHILD SUPPORT, CUSTODY, & VISITATION IN CALIFORNIA http://www.cyberstation.net/~paralegal/camodify.htm#change THE PROCESS OF MODIFICATION http://www.cyberstation.net/~paralegal/camodify.htm#process This article might be helpful in answer some of your questions about your ex-spouse?s potential responsibility to provide your child with health insurance, support and other benefits due to your dramatic change in financial circumstances: CALIFORNIA COURTS SELF HELP CENTER http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp/family/support/supqna.htm Be sure and read these related links also: CALIFORNIA COURTS SELF HELP CENTER Free & Low-Cost Legal Help http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp/lowcost/ CALIFORNIA COURTS SELF HELP CENTER Families & Children http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/selfhelp/family/ I hope you find that my research exceeds your expectations. If you have any questions about my research please post a clarification request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise I welcome your rating and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us. Best regards; Tutuzdad-ga ? Google Answers Researcher INFORMATION SOURCES DEFINED ABOVE SEARCH STRATEGY SEARCH ENGINE USED: Google ://www.google.com SEARCH TERMS USED: CALIFORNIA LEGAL SERVICES LEGAL AID LEGAL ASSISTANCE LEGAL ADVICE CHILD SUPPORT CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES MODIFYING SUPPORT ATTORNEYS | |
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Subject:
Re: Child Support in California
From: chinnasue58-ga on 24 Jun 2004 15:59 PDT |
If you have 50/50 custody, you have 50/50 financial responsibility. What makes you think that he should shoulder your responsibility, too? Child support is for parents with sole custody, since they're supporting the child at all times except a couple of weekends a month. If your ex-husband has your son 50% of the time, he's already directly paying 50% of your son's expenses. Why should he pay more than half just because of your own financial circumstances? If you can't meet your responsibility for your son, maybe your ex-husband should have sole custody. |
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Re: Child Support in California
From: expertlaw-ga on 27 Jun 2004 11:56 PDT |
Dear usaycheez, Without making this comment specific to your situation, I think it is a mistake to assume that child support issues will somehow be too complicated to resolve without lawyers. In most jurisdictions, with the exception of very high income cases, child support is resolved by virtue of written guidelines or formulas. (As the answer above indicates, California uses a statewide formula.) Under a typical formula, support is calculated based primarily upon the amount of income earned by each parent, the amount of time the children spend with each parent, and the number of dependent children (including children from prior or subsequent relationships) who are in their households, with other expenses also considered. It is not uncommon for people to resolve child support issues without using attorneys, or to resolve post-divorce support issues (e.g., adjustment to take into consideration changes in income) without lawyers. Many states offer quite good guidance as to helping yourself through a child support issue - I would be surprised if such a guide does not exist somewhere for the State of California. With regard to the comment above, that if there is roughly equal parenting time no support should be paid, the fact is that when there are significant discrepancies in earning power child support can remain both necessary and very appropriate. With regard to your comments above, I would have been reluctant to delve into this inquiry without a lot more information, as it is difficult to discern the status of your case or what approach to your situation would best suit you. In many cases, where child support is appropriate and the spouses separate prior to the resolution of a divorce, a temporary child support order is put into effect. If the temporary amount is later determined to be incorrect, there may be some subsequent adjustment of the figure (and an associated surplus or arrearage), but the temporary order helps ensure that the children are properly supported while the divorce proceedings are resolved. If you have some issues relating to divorce or custody which are pending, you should ask your lawyer about the possibility of a temporary support order. If no prior order exists, it is extremely unlikely that the judge will not issue an order of support based upon the state guidelines or formula at the conclusion of any custody or support proceedings (or otherwise find that no support is due under the guidelines). It is difficult to tell from your description what support your ex- is already obligated to pay. That is, whether the payment you are expecting at the end of June represents part of the property settlement from a divorce judgment, represents spousal support, represents child support, or reflects some combination of the above. Without clarification on what that support payment is for, it is impossible to guess whether or not you are entitled to additional support. If your divorce litigation is still pending, you should still be able to consult your own attorney about these issues. If the divorce is resolved, you may well benefit from having your situation reviewed by counsel, and as suggested above you should try to see if you qualify for legal aid. If your divorce has been concluded and a judgment has been entered, and you are not presently working with an attorney, you may even wish to consult with a lawyer about your situation (taking with you to the meeting all of your divorce paperwork) even if this means paying for a couple of hours of consultation time. But you should not feel intimidated about petitioning for child support, and if you cannot afford a lawyer at this time you should nonetheless look into the procedure for filing a petition for support on your own behalf. The odds are that the clerks in the family court can provide you with the appropriate forms and perhaps even some instructional material on how to properly petition for support. (Or perhaps the friendly prosecutor you spoke with can steer you in the right direction.) - expertlaw |
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