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Zen and that Art of Picking Up a Cow
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: tnsdan-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
28 Jun 2004 11:12 PDT
Expires: 28 Jul 2004 11:12 PDT Question ID: 367339 |
My dad used to have a theory that he frequently would espouse to us as children. Although he is now long gone, his thinking has stuck with me. It was as follows: A fully grown man can pick up a newly born baby calf no problem (for theatrical confirmation see City Slickers). Now, presumably that calf would not grow so much that day that the man could not pick it up the next day as well. In fact, the cow should never grow so much in one day that the man, having been able to pick it up the day before, should not still be able to pick it up. Thus, when the cow is fully grown, the man would still be able to pick up the cow. However, clearly a man cannot pick up a full grown cow. Thoughts? |
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Re: Zen and that Art of Picking Up a Cow
From: ac67-ga on 28 Jun 2004 11:50 PDT |
Your reasoning is OK, but it is based on faulty assumptions. You assume that the calf will not grow so much in one day that the man won't be able to pick it up the next day, but is this valid? A calf can gain 2 lbs per day early on, slowing down after the first 6 weeks or so, but still gaining appreciably. Early on this may not seem like much, but one day you will get to the point that it is all the man can do to get it off the ground. The next day the calf will be even bigger. Will the man have gained enough strength by the next day to lift the now even slightly bigger calf? If so, how many days in a row can he increase his maximum lifting ability? If you have any experience with weight lifting, you will see that there will be a point at which this breaks down. A full grown cow can weight 1000-1500 lbs. Olympic or World class weight lifters are not achieving this much weight. If it were as simple as increasing the amount you lift by 2 lbs each day, we would see this all the time. Instead, the world class lifters are struggling with daily workouts to increase their maximum by even a lb or two in time for the next competition. |
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Re: Zen and that Art of Picking Up a Cow
From: corwin02-ga on 28 Jun 2004 13:19 PDT |
Sounds a lot like the paradox that you never get home if you constantly divide the distance by half |
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Re: Zen and that Art of Picking Up a Cow
From: geof-ga on 28 Jun 2004 14:17 PDT |
Sorry to be dismissive, but this is clearly a fallacy, for the reasons set out by ac67. But why on earth did your dad pick on a cow as his subject; why not a person? After all, a baby gowing into child- and adult-hood puts on even less weight each day than a calf/cow, but every parent (except a professional weightlifter) knows that the day will arrive when they won't be able to lift up their child. |
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Re: Zen and that Art of Picking Up a Cow
From: digsalot-ga on 28 Jun 2004 14:56 PDT |
Simply change the type of cow you are trying to pick up. Some of these would be a breeze. http://www.miniaturebull.com/ No bull. Cheers Digsalot - whom someone recently described as eccentric?????? |
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Re: Zen and that Art of Picking Up a Cow
From: mathtalk-ga on 28 Jun 2004 17:18 PDT |
The legend of a child which carries a calf each day, growing gradually strong until at maturity is able to carry the full grown animal, is associated with a famous ancient Greek Olympic champion wrestler: [Milo of Croton] http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Milo%20of%20Croton For more about this remarkable character: [Milo of Kroton] http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Olympics/milo.html regards, mathtalk-ga |
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Re: Zen and that Art of Picking Up a Cow
From: ulu-ga on 28 Jun 2004 18:26 PDT |
Some say this calf->bull lifting was the birth of progressive weight training. The paradox that corwin02 mentioned is related to Zeno's paradox, a race between Achilles and a tortoise. It "shows" that Achilles cannot beat a tortoise with a head start. Similar ideas, swapping weight for distance, but neither are provably true, as others have already pointed out. |
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