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Subject: Is a moose related to a rodent
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: georgerauscher-ga
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Posted: 30 Jun 2004 06:47 PDT
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Question ID: 368083
I saw a TV program, like Discovery, that said that a moose is related to
rodents. I passed that information on during a lunch and now I can't
find any supporting evidence.
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Subject: Re: Is a moose related to a rodent
Answered By: omnivorous-ga on 30 Jun 2004 08:48 PDT
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GR --

I can imagine that there were skeptics at lunch.  They'd probably also
kid you about relationships between humans and apes, but evolutionary
biology has been buttressed by DNA studies in the past 30 years and
we've learned quite a bit.

Let's start with a bit on humans so that we can get the big picture. 
This web page has an excellent diagram that shows how primates
(including humans) are related:
"Introduction to Evolution," (Bob Patterson, 2002)
http://members.aol.com/darwinpage/intro1.htm

Humans, moose and rodents are all belong to the animal classification
of mammalia or mammals.  Mammals make up all of the warm-blooded
species that you're familiar with and which seem to dominate the
planet but were "small and shrew-like throughout the (Mesozoic) era,
but rapidly developed into larger forms following the
Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event 65 million years ago," according
to this excellent article in WordIQ.  Basically, biologists believe
that the extinction of the large dinosaurs opened and opportunity for
development of mammals (and humans):
WordIQ Encyclopedia
"Mammals"
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Mammal

Paleontologists have continually been updating what is known about
mammals, including ones that are extinct.  The most-recent
classifications have been done by Malcolm C. McKenna and Susan K. Bell
in 1997.  The two paleontologists work at the American Museum of
Natural History.  Their classifications put humans, moose and rodents
in the following families:

Class: Mammalia

Rodents:
-- Infraclass: Eutheria
 -----  Order: Rodentia (gophers, beavers, squirrels, rats, mice)

Moose:
-- Infraclass: Eutheria
 -- Superorder: Ungulata
 -----  Order: Artiodactyla
 --------- Suborder: Rumantia (giraffe, deer, sheep, bison, cattle)
 -------------- Family: Cervidae (deer, elk, moose)

Humans:
-- Infraclass: Eutheria
 -- Superorder: Archonta
 ----- Order: Primates
 -------- Suborder: Haplorhini (monkeys, chimpanzees, humans)
 ------------ Family: Hominidae (Gorilla, chimpanzees, Orangutan, Human)

The links in the WordIQ article are very interesting, pointing out
many evolutionary details.  For example, deer (and moose) are believed
to have evolved about 5 million years ago and are present on virtually
every continent.  Contrast that with primates, where the earliest
known fossils are 6-7 million years old.  Lucy, an extinct
Australopithecine skeleton that was a predecessor to modern humans, is
estimated to be 2.9 million years old.

And recent research indicates that rodents may have evolved more than once.

The following Google search strategy provides several good links on the topic:
Mammalia + genealogy + family tree

For example, this article has a tree splitting off different mammal
species.  Though it doesn't have the rodent, it has the
closely-related rabbit:
"Taxonomy: Classifying Life," (June, 2003)
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/T/Taxonomy.html

Of course, the closest relationship that I remember of moose and
rodent is Rocket J. Squirrel and Bullwinkle J. Moose:
"Rocky and Bullwinkle Moose Show," (undated)
http://members.aol.com/CoinOper/rockyandbullwinkle.html

http://www.toonopedia.com/rockbull.htm


Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA
georgerauscher-ga rated this answer:2 out of 5 stars
It took a long time to tell me that you couldn't find anything on moose & rodents.

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Subject: Re: Is a moose related to a rodent
From: answersguy-ga on 09 Aug 2004 11:44 PDT
 
You can't find any supporting evidence, probably because there is
none.  In the book of Genesis in the Holy Bible, God created animals
according to their kind. Thats why kinds cannot breed with other
kinds.  For example: a dog,wolf,fox and coyote are a kind   and also a
horse,zebra and a donkey are another example of a kind.  Never has it
been observed that a kind can change into a completely different kind
as evolutionary ideas would have you believe.
The origin of life is explained in the book of Genesis, read it,
you'll understand more and see that facts are consistant with the book
of Genesis.
http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org offers much info on evolution.
Trust me a moose is in no way related to a rodent, much like the idea
of evolution, its a ridiculous notion.
TV shows that are featured on discovery channel, and animal planet and
those channels like them, are run by atheistic/evolutionists who want
to explain everything with-out the concept of God involved, even if
they have to make up wild ideas, about lifes origin and history of the
world.
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