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Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: tent-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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05 Jul 2002 17:19 PDT
Expires: 04 Aug 2002 17:19 PDT Question ID: 36891 |
The IOR was a fraternal society which started in America in 1842 and about the same time in Canada. I need to know whether it is still going in either country. If so, could you tell me its contact details. If not, could you tell me when it ceased operations. It would help to have some idea of the extent of the organisation at different times in its history. |
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Re: Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
From: deadlychiapet-ga on 05 Jul 2002 18:22 PDT |
Hi there, According to a page on the temperance movement in the 1840's (http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/fraternalism/temperance_orders.htm), the IOR in the US is defunct, although it gives no details on when it happened. In Australia, however, the IOR is still going strong. Their website can be found at http://www.ior.org.au/, although it's mostly related to the health insurance plan that the society operates there. -Deadlychiapet-ga |
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Re: Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
From: timothyl-ga on 05 Jul 2002 19:37 PDT |
tent-- I think deadlychipet is right, it's no longer active in the US. But I don't think it's limited to Australia, here's a link to the Rechabite Friendly Society in Manchester England: http://www.rechabite.co.uk/ They specifically identify themselves with the Independent Order of Rechabites: http://www.rechabite.co.uk/museum/how.shtml I did find this history of the movement on the Isle of Man, you might find it helpful: http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/history/socs/rechab.htm There's an email address on this page of someone who might be able to answer your questions" http://www.rechabite.co.uk/museum/research.shtml See also: http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/fraternalism/temperance_orders.htm http://www.bks.no/bauroom.htm Good question! Good luck! Timothy |
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Re: Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
From: ozguru-ga on 05 Jul 2002 22:07 PDT |
Hi, Sorry I couldn't find more, the most likely lead seemed to be Wheaton University: National Christian Association (Secret Societies) files. Perhaps contacting the librarian may reveal whether they have anything of value. http://www.wheaton.edu/learnres/ARCSC/collects/sc29/related.htm The Independent Order of Rechabites are mentioned under the Subject Files and bibliography. Regards, |
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Re: Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
From: johnfrommelbourne-ga on 06 Jul 2002 00:11 PDT |
Yes deadlychiap is correct. I am currently writing from the centre of Melbourne City, Australia where very close to me is a huge old sign embossed on very old building probably from around 100 years ago that says in full INDEPENDANT ORDER OF RECHABITES. The sign must be at least 4 or 5 metres long but hardly noticable now unless you weere looking for it. Wont go on anymore as the above is not related to what you were looking for I would'nt think John from Melbourne |
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Re: Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
From: journalist-ga on 06 Jul 2002 07:24 PDT |
There is also a UK societies research newsletter available in PDF form at http://www.open.ac.uk/socialsciences/fsrg/fsrgsubset/fsrginfopops/friendlyn4.pdf You might contact them as there may be Rechabites in canada and the US, but without a web presence. |
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Re: Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
From: politicalguru-ga on 06 Jul 2002 16:16 PDT |
Dear Tent, As your name might indicate, you probably have knowledge of the Rechabites' history and organizational structure. However, I done a *thorough* search online (usuing search terms such as: Independent Order Rechabites - and going through all ~600 documents American Rechabites "Friendly Society" ) and found no answers to your question, when did the society had ceased to exist. May I point, that there are no archive records after the 1930s both in the Unites States and Canada, if that amounts to something. I am leaving you my list of links, may they be helpful in your search. Note: according to a British dicussion group (www.mail-archive.com/nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com/ msg01379.html), The Curator of the Rechabite Collection is Ann French at the national Museum of Labour History 103 Princess St. Manchester M1 6DD, England UK. Of course, she archives and documents British Rechabites, but she may be helpful. Another note: if you're doing a genealogical research, I have found several interesting sites you may want to use. US - Founded 1842 in the US; and was very small (http://www.bks.no/bauroom.htm); resisted drinking; was organized in "tents" rather than chapters or lodges; mentioned in http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/fraternalism/chronology_fraternal_organizations_america.htm as "debunked" www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/ fraternalism/temperance_orders.htm ; apparently, it did well in the 19th century, as several sources reveal (California http://www.coastalpost.com/smileys/history.htm ; Until 1860 - http://www.linshaw.com/omtp/vol4no11.html In 1895 - http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gordonchilds/studios/brown.htm Also these sources might help: Degree Service of the Independent Order of Rechabites of North America. Washington, DC: N. Bunch; 1886. Initiation Service, Installation, and Order of Procedure at Funerals of the Independent Order of Rechabites of North America. Washington, DC: N. Bunch; 1886. Canada - Legal listing 1910 - http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/privlaw/7595/7246.html Australia - Addresses - http://www.afsa.com.au/afsa_files/Members%20of%20AFSA/Members_of_AFSA.html Archival Information - http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/research/condon/sass/sass-list.asp?AuthorLetter=I http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/cguide/pr/regcoop1.htm South Australia - www.takver.com/history/lh_gifs/secsoc03.htm West Australia - http://henrietta.liswa.wa.gov.au:81/search/dhealth/dhealth/-5,-1,0,B/frameset&F=dhealth+insurance&3,,4 History - http://blueroom.net.au/thehall/history.html ; http://www.maps.jcu.edu.au/hist/quack/structure/fs.html www.ior.org.au - in Australia (their Health Insurance). UK - (1993) «The Independent Order of Rechabites as a Friendly Society in nineteenth-century England», in Caldeira, I & Botto, M. I. D., (eds.) Archive holdings until 1930s - www.sussex.ac.uk/library/massobs/tclists/WT47.html Isle of Mann - www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/ history/socs/rechab.htm Scotalnd - Documents in U. of Glasgow - http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/collects/catalog/ascols-i.html#ior Wales - U. of Swasea - until 1930s - http://www.swansea.gov.uk/archives/book/societiesrecords.htm and also this 1931 boklet - http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Cardiff_Blue_Ribbon_Choir/Prog_3.html http://www.open.ac.uk/socialsciences/sociology/socsubset/socinfopops/socires_g.html - research on the IOR New Zealand - Until 1981 - Archival info. www.nram.org.nz/e/41/x2664.html |
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Re: Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
From: tent-ga on 07 Jul 2002 16:32 PDT |
Hello from "tent". Thanks to all of you who have posted comments to my question. As you may have guessed from its wording, I already have a fair amount of information about the IOR in the UK and Australia! Although it is not directly related to my inquiry, I would like to hear from John in Melbourne about the location of the sign on the old building (assuming the sign itself is old), as I am interested in IOR memorabilia. Anyone who is wondering about the origin of the name "Rechabites" might like to visit the following sites, which explain where it comes from! http://www.bible.org/public/easton/t0003080.htm http://www.searchgodsword.org/con/ttt/view.cgi?number=T471 |
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Re: Brief history of the Independent Order of Rechabites in North America
From: johnfrommelbourne-ga on 13 Jul 2002 07:36 PDT |
Dear Tent,
Just happen to run past your post which I had forgot
about and decided to check it out again and seen my name and your
request. Its the middle of the night here but I made sure I drove
home past building that I thought was that with the big sign. Sure
enough it is there bold as brass and bigger than what I described to
you. It is no doubt an original RECHABITES building and original
RECHABITES sign. The building is a large three story high beautiful
old building of a very odd shape being a wedge shape to take account
of steep corner it is situated on. The address is Corner Elizabeth St
and Leicester St with Elizabeth st being probably the main street of
Melbourne, (pop. 3.5M
). The sign was obviously buily into the building as it was erected
and I see there is actually two huge signs of around 6 -7 metres;
bigger than what I first told you. The two signs on either side of the
building have separating them the words HEADQUARTERS right on the
pointy end of wedge,(where just enough space exists for such a sign.
This then, must have been the Victorian headquaters of the RECHABITES.
Victoria is the second most populous state of Australia
The building features the period architecture of the time and I would
think it would have been built very early this century, or before.
Certainly
it is in a choice piece of central Melbourne's best real estate so
could not
have been much later. The signs actually stand out far more than I
first thought by the way so many would have noticed this sign and
building both. Is there anything else you need that I can get hold of
easy. If so, just back via this medium
John From Melbourne P.S If you would like a photo you may ned to
give me a little time. |
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