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Subject: Websites with similar navigation
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: moetrio-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 02 Jul 2004 11:55 PDT
Expires: 01 Aug 2004 11:55 PDT
Question ID: 369001
We would like to find websites with similar navigation style to one
that we are using.  The temp address of our site is:

http://216.117.185.94/default.aspx

We need to find websites with the dynamic menu we use.  For example,
when you mouse over the main menu, a sub menu shows up dynamically. 
When you mouseover another button, another set of buttons appear as
the submenu.

The answer must show websites that have very similar navigation.  In
particular, when you click on a submenu link, it remains highlighted
until you click on another menu option.

It's preferred that the similar menus don't use Flash (for the menu),
be horizontal (like ours), and that at least 5 websites be found (the
more the better).
Answer  
Subject: Re: Websites with similar navigation
Answered By: easterangel-ga on 05 Jul 2004 22:52 PDT
 
Hi! Thanks for the question.

Here are following websites with menu functionalities similar to yours.


1. Interlan Consulting
http://www.interlan.ca/index.php?p=30

2. Pgvlongueuil
http://www.pgvlongueuil.com/quebec.htm 

3. ITS Mobile
http://www.itsmobile.com/

4. Villman Computer Systems
http://www.villman.com.ph/

5. xFX Jumpstart
http://software.xfx.net/

6. La Longeraie Hôtel et centre de congrès
http://www.lalongeraie.ch/

7. Long Island State Employees Federal Credit Union
http://www.lisefcu.org/

8. Ricky Sander Wine Company
http://www.rswco.com/

9. Schier & Lesser Architecture Studio  
http://schierlesser.com/

10. Glenda?s Place
http://www.glendasplanet.com/

11. Promotion Stat
http://promotionstat.com/

12. Spec Tronics Inc.
http://www.spectronics.us/

13. Minesite
http://www.minesite.com/

14. Simon Walsh
http://www.simonwalsh.org/

15. Jetcam International
http://www.jetcam.com/

16. Jaguar Woman
http://www.jaguarwoman.com/jaggraphics.html

17. Protocom
http://www.protocom.com/

18. Goldschmiede Thomas Heinz
http://www.thomas-heinz.de/

19. Jumping Cholla Enterprises, Inc
http://www.jumpingcholla.com/jce_index.htm

20. Web Llama
http://www.webllama.com/

21. J Edward Oliver
http://www.jeoliver.co.uk/


Search terms used:
mouseover horizontal drop-down menus clients
var submenu=new Array()

I hope these links would help you in your research. Before rating this
answer, please ask for a clarification if you have a question or if
you would need further information.
                 
Thanks for visiting us.                
                 
Regards,                 
Easterangel-ga                 
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Request for Answer Clarification by moetrio-ga on 06 Jul 2004 09:39 PDT
Thank you for answering the question. 

However, one part that wasn't focused on in your answer was: "when you
click on a submenu link, it remains highlighted until you click on
another menu option".

Out of the 21 websites you returned, only 1 of them met that criteria.
The website http://www.lalongeraie.ch/seminaires/forfait_avec_repas.asp
does what we were looking for.  For example, first click "Hotel: Tarif
des chambres".  Notice that after clicking it, the submenu remains
highlighted until you visit another page.

If possible, can you please find a couple more websites that do the
same functionality?  We would prefer the navigation to be horizontal,
like ours, but that's not a requirement.

Please let us know if that's possible.  Thanks in advance.

Request for Answer Clarification by moetrio-ga on 06 Jul 2004 13:58 PDT
We are satisfied with the answer, but to truly make it a 5 star rating
and us very happy, the specific websites we are looking for:

-have menus that stay on the page.  not flyout menus, but menus that
appear and stay on the page until the user goes to another button.

To summarize, before we rate your answer with a five, please help us
find the following:
1) SubMenus that appear and stay on the page after you mouseover the menu buttons. 
2) The submenu option that you click on, stays highlighted until you
click on another submenu option.

Please let us know if you need further clarification.

Clarification of Answer by easterangel-ga on 06 Jul 2004 17:09 PDT
Hi again!

I tried to look further but can't seem to find the two requirements
you're looking for.

I misunderstood your request there of the term "when you click on a
submenu link, it remains highlighted until you click on another menu
option". I just thought that once you rollover on the submenus, the
main menus need to still be highlighted. I apologize for that.

Your additional requirement in the clarification... "The submenu
option that you click on, stays highlighted until you click on another
submenu option." is a rather tough one and cannot find a site similar
to yours after further searching.

I'm really sorry I can't find anymore the websites you're looking for
with the particular functionalities. I hope you understand.

Thanks!
Comments  
Subject: Re: Websites with similar navigation
From: nvachro-ga on 05 Jul 2004 16:05 PDT
 
The Navigational Menu of the URL that you listed is slightly modified
from the source code at this site:

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/tabmouseover.htm

The vast majority of the variable names and function names, even the
order of the lines of the code are the same.


=============================================
EXAMPLE FROM YOUR SITE: 
=============================================
 var delay_hide=500
        var menuobj=document.getElementById?
document.getElementById("describe") : document.all?
document.all.describe : document.layers? document.dep1.document.dep2 :
""
=============================================
EXAMPLE FROM HIS SOURCE: 
=============================================
var delay_hide=500

/////No need to edit beyond here

var menuobj=document.getElementById?
document.getElementById("describe") : document.all?
document.all.describe : document.layers? document.dep1.document.dep2 :
""
=============================================
/////////////////////////////////////////////
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
=============================================
EXAMPLE FROM YOUR SITE: 
=============================================
 function resetit(e)
        {
			if (document.all&&!menuobj.contains(e.toElement))
				delayhide=setTimeout("diplay(-1)",delay_hide)
=============================================
EXAMPLE FROM HIS SOURCE:
=============================================
function resetit(e){
if (document.all&&!menuobj.contains(e.toElement))
delayhide=setTimeout("showit(-1)",delay_hide)
else if (document.getElementById&&e.currentTarget!= e.relatedTarget&&
!contains_ns6(e.currentTarget, e.relatedTarget))
delayhide=setTimeout("showit(-1)",delay_hide)
}
=============================================
/////////////////////////////////////////////
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
=============================================
EXAMPLE FROM YOUR SITE:
=============================================
<script language="JavaScript1.2">

[lines added here]

var submenu=new Array()
=============================================
EXAMPLE FROM HIS SOURCE: 
=============================================
<script language="JavaScript1.2">

[comments crediting the author here]

var submenu=new Array()
=============================================
/////////////////////////////////////////////
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
=============================================


The last example was so rare, in fact, that googling for it turned up
other examples of similar menus quite easily.




=============================================
SITES THAT USE THE SAME NAVIGATION:

http://www.trinitypride.k12.pa.us/
-uses source code, credited, from the first link

http://photodriveup.photodriveup.com/software/
http://www.sandoba.de/


---------------------------------------------
Personal sites:
http://www.chrishaynie.com (appears to just use a few clips of code
written by PHP code)
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=jJaNga_HTMLz

=============================================


Here is an example of how such a menu might be created with completely
different code:

http://brainjar.com/dhtml/menubar/demo3.html
Subject: Re: Websites with similar navigation
From: webadept-ga on 06 Jul 2004 18:56 PDT
 
Hi, 

There is a reason these are so difficult to find, and that is, the
method of the menu system limits the site's profile in search engines.
In fact, when I don't want a site showing up or to have a large
profile, I use these types of menus to keep the bots at bay.

The reasoning for this is two fold, first, the links to the pages are
in the Javascript, and not in <a' tags. Most of the bots these days
are smart enough to find these at times, but the major engines, who
have to search through 1000's per hour, don't bother. Their reasoning
is simple as well, Javascript hyperlinks tend to trap bots, and slow
the indexing process down to a crawl. So, they just don't bother.

Second, is that, as you say, the menus are dynamic, meaning that if I
go there once and click on the first option, I have a set of
hyperlinks on the next page, but, if I chose the second option, I have
a different set, .. this confuses bots, they aren't that smart.

Hence, these pages don't index well, and so they are very hard to
find. I do get the impression however that you are looking for these
out of a particular need.. the real question behind this one, and ..
perhaps, if you gave your researcher that question, he might be able
to help you a great deal more than we have so far.

There are several very good libraries out there which have this
functionality to them .The best one I've come across in recent times
is at

http://www.cross-browser.com/

As you will see there, the functionality for creating these is all
there and very well put together. However, not many people choose to
go this route, for the same reasons I've explained already.

Good luck to you

webadept-ga
Subject: Re: Websites with similar navigation
From: sellout-ga on 08 Jul 2004 13:03 PDT
 
http://www.kana.com/ I believe fits your requirements
Subject: Re: Websites with similar navigation
From: pafalafa-ga on 11 Jul 2004 12:08 PDT
 
Here's another that I came across in an unrealted search, but I
remembered your question:

http://www.bukowskis.se/english/

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