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Subject:
RFID range restrictions
Category: Science > Technology Asked by: chriscook-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
15 Jul 2004 14:23 PDT
Expires: 14 Aug 2004 14:23 PDT Question ID: 374653 |
I understand the basics of passive RFID tags but one answer that has failed be has to do with range. Various manufactures of RFID tags and readers talk of the different frequencies that they operate with and tie that into their discussions of range (distance between the tag and the reader), but what I fail to see is why the power of the signal broadcast by the reader does not also correlate to the range attainable. My specific example: Our metro system uses RFID 'SmartPass' cards for storing fare values. Normal usage has you waving your card within a few inches of the turnstile to allow passage. I would assume that the reader is sending a fairly weak signal so not to affect the other turnstiles and cards in the area. What prevents a RFID reader from being crafted that sends a signal on the same frequency but at a stronger power (Watts?) and reading all the cards carried by everyone in the station? Questions arising from dealing with multiple simultaneous card responses aside. |
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Subject:
Re: RFID range restrictions
From: genetix-ga on 15 Jul 2004 14:59 PDT |
The tags are powered by the reader so the transmitted power would have to be considerable, which would fall outside the FCC guidelines for that particular frequency. Also, the reader would have to have a much more sensitive receiver (since the tags have a very low output) which makes it more susceptible to noise (unreliable operation). Hope this helps. |
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Re: RFID range restrictions
From: touf-ga on 15 Jul 2004 16:41 PDT |
Yea, mostly has to do with the FCC. Reading multiple cards? Not a problem. Note many stores use RFID with regards to loss prevention/theft. Those little sticky tags that attach to your (insert stealable, expensive but small product here, like a CD) work from about 5 or so feet away. Many tollbooths also have RFID technology which allows the receiver to be activated from 5-15 feet away. So, technically, you could have the same thing in your wallet, though the receiver would have to be bigger and would no longer be comfortable or easy to carry. Not impossible, just more expensive and probably not worth it. Also, what if somebody in the station didn't have a card? Nobody would be the wiser, and that person would get a free ride...but if they have to hold it a few inches away from a transmitter specifically to unlock the turnstile, then it keeps people a bit more honest. |
Subject:
Re: RFID range restrictions
From: chriscook-ga on 16 Jul 2004 05:39 PDT |
My question is actually geared toward the privacy implications of RFID range rahter then building a practical application. |
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Re: RFID range restrictions
From: neilzero-ga on 26 Jul 2004 09:53 PDT |
I agree the technology could have boosted transmiter power and read some cards repeatedly at distances of several meters. At still more power you would be exposing the closest people to ilegal levels of RF radiation which might damage their health. The receiver(s) would need to be designed for many different frequencies and codes to read cards that people used for a wide variety of purposes. It would be very costly, unless mass produced. Perhaps you will soon be able buy for $99 at Walmart a device that will read some of the RFID cards in wallets and purses when an appropriate transmiter is nearby. Neil |
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Re: RFID range restrictions
From: touf-ga on 26 Jul 2004 13:56 PDT |
Yes, there are quite a lot of privacy issues concerning RFID. After all, what's to stop someone from taking a handheld transmitter around to purses and wallets, silently copying the code from each RFID card? For the purposes of this comment, let's be clear that the transmitter is like those poles you walk through at the supermarket, and the receiver is the actual card. Anyways, we use RFID at our work to gain entry into the building. But, if we look at how these guys work, which is basically that the transmitter is always transmitting, the card is powered from the transmitter (E = hv), and reflects a signal with that card's identifying information. Well, it seems like an easy step from there to store the information, put it in another device, and send it out for the base station to pick up... |
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