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Castrating Sheep with Teeth?
Category: Science > Agriculture and Farming Asked by: pull_the_trig-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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16 Jul 2004 21:18 PDT
Expires: 15 Aug 2004 21:18 PDT Question ID: 375251 |
I have heard that to speed the process of castrating sheep, sheepherders use (or used to use) their teeth to bite off the scrotum. My wife claims her father even did this as a youth. However, when I asked Snopes about it, they told me it is a myth and that no woman would ever marry a scrotum-biting sheepherder. Do (or did) sheepherders use their teeth to castrate sheep and if so can you provide enough proof to convince Snopes.com that this is indeed true? |
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Re: Castrating Sheep with Teeth?
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 21 Jul 2004 17:06 PDT Rated: |
Dear pull_the_trig-ga; Thank you for allowing me an opportunity to answer your interesting question. There does seem to be some truth (to a degree) in the story of men using their teeth to castrate farm animals but it probably doesn?t happen quite as literally as the physical act would seem to convince one that it does. Apparently, from what I have read, sheep (lambs in particular) understandably put up quite a fight during this procedure. Some farmers are said to use a method whereby they would pin the lamb to the ground, and since they had only one free hand to do the job, would take hold of the testicles with their teeth, pull up, and swiftly slice the organs off. Naturally they would immediately spit the amputation onto the ground nearby and this would certainly give the appearance that they had bitten the organs off when in fact they were actually severed with a blade. Consider this description of the event from someone who witnessed the event many times as a young lad: ?Thousands of lambs were born each year. Us kids loved them and still do. Lambs had to have their tails cut off and the males had to have their tails and testicles removed. Cutting their tails off was quick and simple but cutting the testicles, that was something else. Us kids were allowed to watch the men do this bloody work. They would hold the testicles tight underneath, slit the skin holding the testicle in, put their mouth down and get hold of the testicle with their teeth, lift it up a bit, slice it off with the knife in their other hand and then spit the testicle on the ground. The man doing this had blood all over his mouth and face. There was a big heap of testicles and lamb tails on the ground but the testicles were soon cleaned up by the many black crows that lived there.? ?The Early Years at Wesley Dale, Tasmania Australia Circa 1922 to 1937? http://stott.customer.netspace.net.au/wesley.htm I doubt it was done differently, as in literally biting them off without the aid of a knife, since a human?s teeth are not nearly adequate enough to make that kind quick amputation necessary to keep from crippling an animal or preventing it from bleeding to death before the task was completed (not to mention the enormous infection and mortality rate this would have created). However, I did find one reference that reportedly comes from John Clarke?s 'GENERAL VIEW OF THE AGRICULTURE OF THE COUNTY OF HEREFORD' (1794) that described the brutal castration of a farm animal in this fashion: ?they open the scrotum, take hold of the testicles with their teeth, and with violence tear them out? TURNASTONE COURT FARM HEREFORDSHIRE AGRICULTURE IN THE 1790?s http://www.archenfield.com/Turnastone%20Court%20Agriculture%20History.htm Even here though it is explained ?they open the scrotum?? presumably with a knife, which leads me to believe that this procedure was done in the same fashion as mentioned earlier, but appeared, to the writer at least, more brutal than history ultimately recorded it. In summary, it does appear that some farm animal castrations were ?teeth assisted?, if that makes sense, but quite unlikely, for obvious reasons, dependent upon human teeth alone. In a sense, your wife is probably right ? that?s certainly how it would have looked, and ?biting? the gonads off is probably what the men who did it called it, even though it probably wasn?t how it literally happened (at least not in civilized times). I hope this sheds some light on the practice and helps put the issue to rest for you ? and your wife. Below you will find that I have carefully defined my search strategy for you in the event that you need to search for more information. By following the same type of searches that I did you may be able to enhance the research I have provided even further. I hope you find that my research exceeds your expectations. If you have any questions about my research please post a clarification request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise, I welcome your rating and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us. Best regards; Tutuzdad ? Google Answers Researcher INFORMATION SOURCES Defined above SEARCH STRATEGY SEARCH ENGINES USED: Google ://www.google.com SEARCH TERMS USED: sheep testicles "with their teeth" | |
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I welcome your answer, I knew I was right That old farming workers made use of their bite Perhaps they were hungry or born to poor fate I’m Glad for my fortune, no sheep to castrate. |
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Re: Castrating Sheep with Teeth?
From: rcarr-ga on 21 Jul 2004 14:35 PDT |
A web search ( ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=castrating+sheep+teeth&btnG=Search ) provides many, er, insightful results but they all appear to be of the anecdotal "friend-of-a-friend" variety. Snopes tends to rely only on solid evidence. I'm interested, though. Are you trying to prove that your wife is right or wrong? |
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Re: Castrating Sheep with Teeth?
From: pinkfreud-ga on 21 Jul 2004 14:55 PDT |
My grandfather, who operated a small farm, once told his grandkids that he used his teeth to castrate calves. We were horrified and disgusted, of course. Many years later, when I was grown up, I asked Grandpa about this. He laughed and said that it was just a wild story that he'd heard, and that he had not actually done this, but was trying to get a rise out of us. I suspect that accounts which report this sort of thing are mostly relayed as "friend of a friend" tales. "This didn't happen to me, but I know it's true because it happened to a friend of a friend..." |
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Re: Castrating Sheep with Teeth?
From: pull_the_trig-ga on 21 Jul 2004 16:22 PDT |
I have heard the tale before and thought it was false, until my wife brought it back up. I really want to prove Snopes wrong more than anything because they are so smug about thinking they know so much about everything. |
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Re: Castrating Sheep with Teeth?
From: tutuzdad-ga on 21 Jul 2004 16:29 PDT |
I find it more amazing that someone would actually "admit" to doing it :) |
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Re: Castrating Sheep with Teeth?
From: notagen-ga on 17 Feb 2005 19:26 PST |
I had my first job working on a station as a Jakeroo,one of my duties was at lamb marking time to "bite out" the testicles of the young lambs. The proceedure went like this,the two bosses would catch the lambs in the yard and hold them up on the fence with there arms holding the back legs up around the lambs head and the lambs rump resting on the fence. I would then pull the testicle sack down and push the testicles back up towards the body of the lamb ,thus in doing so would give a clear slack piece of the sack to cut off,a very sharp special castarating knife was used , the knife had a small crook like aparatus on one end that could be used to hook hold of the testicle and pull it out , but it was quite usless and too slow. The age old method of "biting" them out was the quickest. The fingers were squeesed down each side of the sack and the two testicles popped out the cut off end,then i would take a strong hold with my teeth and pull like hell, the string that is attached up inside the sheep somwhere had to come away as well,one would then spit the testicle on the ground and the dogs were allways there to gobble them down, then i would repeat the process and go for the second one . The next step was to hold the long tail with the left hand and quickly run the very sharp knife down the tail until about the second joint from the butt and with an upward swing with the left hand and a downward push with the knife the tail would be cut off. This was probablly the worst part as as soon as the tail was cut a thin but powerfull spray of blood would shoot into ones face if you were not quick enough to duck. It only seems like a bad job to the ones that have never done it ,the fly blown maggoty ones were without a doubt not pleasant to have ones face buried in close to the wool. On a good day we would do around 200. This is a true story ask any of the old bushies and they will confirm it. |
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