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Q: Locating .NET Programmers in a state ( Answered 5 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: Locating .NET Programmers in a state
Category: Computers > Programming
Asked by: e9mediallc-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 18 Jul 2004 18:07 PDT
Expires: 17 Aug 2004 18:07 PDT
Question ID: 375925
How can I find ASP.NET C# programmers (with their contact info) for
hire as freelancers in Utah without going via an agency that charges a
percentage of their pay and who doesnt allow me to hire them directly?

Request for Question Clarification by mathtalk-ga on 18 Jul 2004 19:33 PDT
Hi, e9mediallc-ga:

I have some suggestions that I've been working on fleshing out, but
I'd like to ask you to clarify what you mean by "freelancers".

For example, are you looking for a certain level of experience?  Would
you be interested in the services of a programmer who has their own
business and would not be likely to give that up to work as an

Are you looking for programmers who can productively telecommute, or
do you need staff to work "on site" for you (or for a third party)?

Finally, are there some "obvious" suggestions that you've tried and
found unworkable?  I don't want to waste your time with ideas you've
already rejected.

regards, mathtalk-ga

Clarification of Question by e9mediallc-ga on 18 Jul 2004 21:43 PDT

Sorry, I should have elaborated a little on freelancer, maybe the
wrong word.  Basically we are looking for individuals that can work
either part-time or full-time on projects as either an employee of
ours or as an independent contractor for hire if they are freelancing
as their own business picking up projects by project. (a one man show)

We want them to be in Utah so they can either if employed work in out
office or if they are freelancing work from thier home in Utah but
able to be visited or visit us.

We have tried places like rentacoder, elance, etc but they dont allow
contact info to be shared and charge a percentage of the payments to

Thanks for help!

Request for Question Clarification by mathtalk-ga on 19 Jul 2004 05:54 PDT
Thanks for the prompt clarification.  In connection with wondering
what level of experience you are looking for (entry-level/college
graduate <--> system architects with extensive project experience),
some thought should be given to how candidates will be evaluated.

This is of course the usual area in which recruiters earn their keep,
at least by weeding out the obvious posers.

Is it fair to say that you would be comfortable shouldering this
burden, e.g. reading resumes, doing phone interviews, and then perhaps
advancing either to a face to face interview or trial project?

I ask to get a feel for what degree of pre-qualification you are looking for.

regards, mathtalk-ga

Clarification of Question by e9mediallc-ga on 19 Jul 2004 06:53 PDT

Yes that is correct, those items we would do. By talking directly with
the candidate it makes it easier to find out what experience they have
and how qualified they are for certain projects. Experience is very
good and is preferred, but sometimes a new programmer with .NET skills
from college can catch on pretty quick as long as they are hungry for
more knowledge and like challenges. Of course they would make less
which is expected then an experienced programmer.

Subject: Re: Locating .NET Programmers in a state
Answered By: mathtalk-ga on 20 Jul 2004 05:09 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Hi, e9mediallc-ga:

I know my own local .Net user group has been sending out emails with
work opportunities.  It's not a very formal arrangement, but it got me
to thinking about what might be available in Utah.

So backtracking from my own user group's Web site, I went here:

[MSDN Online - User Groups]

This lead me to this user group in Salt Lake City, Utah:

[Utah .Net User Group]

which has a job board, including some C# related opportunities:

[Utah .Net User Group - Job Board]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Another of my favorite sites for things .Net:

[GotDotNet - Resource Center]

includes a jobs section, also message boards, e.g. C# specific.  It's
not geographically restrictive, but you could certainly identify the
travel and availability necessary, and let the "community members"
respond.  [A Microsoft "passport" is required to register there, eg. a
Hotmail account.]

It wasn't obvious to me how to submit a job for posting here, so I
contacted them (by email) to find out.  An MSDN Community Site Manager
promptly responded as follows:

"Jobs are posted just as any other resource - their main attribute is
that they are a job listing rather than an article, vendor, component,

"The approval process for all resource center postings goes through
the same tool. So you submit, we process, it goes up if acceptable."

[GotDotNet Resource Submission]

In your case I'd say the resource type would be "Jobs", the technology
ASP.NET, and the skill C#.  Applying these settings as a "filter" to
the resource listings found 35 matches, though not all terribly
recent.  The listing would include a link to your own site for further
details about the opportunity and application.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 

One advantage you may have is your willingness to allow developers to
telecommute.  Despite all the hype and the cost of providing on-site
facilities for development staff, telecommuting has yet to take up
much room on most job boards.

As a consequence you may be seeing some "free" resumes posted by
individuals on the Web, or one like this:

[I want work with .NET, using VB, C#, and/or ASP.NET]

"Applicant is exclusively interested in work-at-home opportunities."

The above is a site which, according to their FAQ, gets resumes
released by "paid" recruitment sites in return for advertising space
on their site.  The above developer is interested exclusively in
telecommuting opportunities, so perhaps that resume was seen as a good
fit for the free site.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Other resources I'd look into are resume databanks created by state or
local governments for job seekers, as well as the placement offices
for local colleges and universities.  For example:

[Utah Department of Workforce Services]

"We recommend that in addition to using Utah's Job Bank, you also
contact the office nearest you or call (888) 920-WORK (9675) to ensure
that we provide you the best serves available, including a
comprehensive recruitment effort."

Employers need to register in order to post jobs and review the resume database:

[Utah DWS - Employer Login]

Here's a site that provides additional links:

[Working in Utah]

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Good luck with your search, and I'll be happy to Clarify for you the
procedures of using these sites as needed.

regards, mathtalk-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by e9mediallc-ga on 20 Jul 2004 11:32 PDT
Hi mathtalk-ga,

Thanks for the pointers. You mentioned "the placement offices for
local colleges and universities" ... did you have some info on that,
not sure where to look for the placement offices.  Have heard before
about some companies going to colleges but they had pointers on where
I would suppose.

I noticed in the Gotdotnet there are recruiters that post there also,
they must have several sources they use like that. I guess if I look
to how they find people then I should be able to find some too i

Thanks again!

Clarification of Answer by mathtalk-ga on 20 Jul 2004 12:46 PDT
Hi, e9mediallc-ga:

That's right -- you are now your own recruiter!

Did you have any specific colleges or universities in mind?  I'll be
glad to run down some contacts for you; schools are almost always
happy to have job opportunities for students as well as graduates that
conforms with a chosen field of study.

The Utah .Net User Group, for example, seems to have a connection with
the Northface University in Salt Lake City.  I don't know if you'd
like me to include it or exclude it from my further investigations.

In any case I'll be sure to outline my "search" strategy so you can
expand on it as necessary.

regards, mathtalk-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by e9mediallc-ga on 20 Jul 2004 16:09 PDT
Hi mathtalk-ga,

Thanks for your quick reply.  I dont have any specific, dont think it
really matters as long as its in Utah.  I appreciate you doing the
additional searches for me.

Thanks again!

Clarification of Answer by mathtalk-ga on 20 Jul 2004 18:26 PDT
Colleges and Universities Placement Centers

I guess Brigham-Young University would certainly be one institution to
start with, so I checked for several kinds of links there.  For
students about to graduate, you'll find the first two (the student
placement center and the career fair) most useful.  For alumni, the
other two links.

[BYU Career Placement]

[BYU Career Fair]

[BYU Alumni Placement]

Here are a few more links to the basic placement centers for other
Utah higher-educational institutions:

[Southern Utah Univ. Career Services]

[Univ. of Utah Career Services]

[Utah State Univ. Career Services]

Keyword Searches:

 {school name or abbrev.} + placement + center
 {school name or abbrev.} + career + services

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

For a list (actually links) of Utah schools of higher learning:

[Links to Universities -]

The home page of the above also has a link for employers about
establishing college internships, which might be of interest on
well-structured projects.

Of course you might at some point want to entertain student hires from
neighboring states.  New graduates are often pretty mobile and may
even look at spending a year in Utah as a transition from school to a

For a directory with lots of western state colleges' placement centers:

[Looksmart - Career Centers at Western US Colleges]

Utah Workforce Services - Local Offices

I thought you might enjoy an article I came across about Utah's Dept.
of Workforce Services and their local offices:

[Workforce Services makes the connection]

"The Utah Department of Workforce Services has three dozen employment
centers throughout the state. Also known as Utah's Job Connection,
it's streamlined, one-stop shopping."

A map of these widely distributed employment centers is found here:

[Utah DWS Employment Centers]

regards, mathtalk-ga
e9mediallc-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
You were very helpful in researching additional areas for me to review
and take a look at. Your answers were very prompt and detailed beyond
what I expected. Your a great resource to use. I'm adding an
additional 50% as a tip for your professionalism. Thanks!

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