Different business, hardware stores, farm supplies etc., once used
elevators which were, by a series of ropes pulleys and counter
weights, moved up or down with little effort by the person inside the
car. They were very safe and stable and used no power, electrical or
otherwise, but only manpower.
I am trying to recreate one of these in my farm to traverse between
two floors. Can you provide me with a design that is detailed enough
to be able to apply the technology to a working model.
Thanks, unclewiggly13 |
Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
24 Jul 2004 09:08 PDT
Hello Unclewiggly,
Please take a look at the following articles.
Improved Dumb-Waiter and Hand Elevator
http://moa.cit.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0024%2F&tif=00232.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0024-556
Images and specifications for hoisting apparatus
Click on images to view patent and then choose specifications .
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=31128.WKU.&OS=PN/31128&RS=PN/31128
Could you please clarify if one of the above devices meets your needs
or if you require something different?
Thanks, Bobbie7
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Clarification of Question by
unclewiggly13-ga
on
24 Jul 2004 11:47 PDT
Hello Bobbie-7,
Good work! We are definitely headed in the right direction. I am not
going to read the first page in detail yet because I want to see if we
can do just a little better, which I will explain.
The first URL the "Improved Dumb-Waiter and Hand Elevator" is very
close to what I am looking for. Pages like these really turn me on.
The second URL I could not view, and maybe you could tell me why. I
can do most things but I'm not exactly a computer whiz. --When I
opened the URL there is a little square box in the upper left hand
corner, something I have seen before, that tells me there is something
missing on my computer if I want to view it. It is a little square
box with a smaller colored square, a colored ball and a triangle. I
don?t know what this means. I have a very modern PC with windows XP.
Just built recently.
Please don?t get me wrong. The first URL is excellent with only one
drawback. The parts that it is using are ?old timey? parts that I
probably couldn?t get off the shelf just anywhere. I would like to
chip away at this to see if we can uncover a page where the machinery
employed is a little more modern and recognizable to me as stock
gears, pulleys and shafts.
I hope this helps you. This is the first time I have used this
service and I think the potential is enormous. I fear I might become
an information junky because I have a very curious mind but I can?t
always find what I want to further my lines of enquiry.
Thanks again, Unclewiggly-13
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
24 Jul 2004 12:05 PDT
Hi Uncle Wiggly,
I'm glad that I'm headed in the right direction.
Regarding second URL - You will have to download a TIFF viewer in
order to see the images at the USPTO website.
From the USPTO website:
Download the TIFF view and read how to Access Full-Page Images
http://www.uspto.gov/patft/help/images.htm
I located a Butler's Buddy Dumb Waiter Kit that might interest you.
http://www.butlersbuddy.com/ready.htm
Does this help?
Thanks,
Bobbie7
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
24 Jul 2004 12:26 PDT
Is the following diagram and components list more closely related to
what you require?
http://www.delco21.co.kr/daemyung_en/dumb.asp
Manual Hoists are designed to raise and lower your platform with a
simple to use telescopic handle. They are ideal for low-rise
applications.
http://www.regionalequipment.com/hoists.html
Hand chain hoists with diagrams
http://www.acihoist.com/handchain.html
Manual chain hoist
http://www.rema.nl/products/d1.htm
Is any of this information closer to your needs?
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Clarification of Question by
unclewiggly13-ga
on
24 Jul 2004 19:14 PDT
Hi Bobbie-Lee,
The URL that I needed the TIFF component for was interesting and may
be of use as far as figuring out how the ropes are strung, but like
the other it is pretty old stuff they are using there.
The ?Butlers Buddy? thing was interesting, but bare in mind, I?m
looking for non-electric everything. The chain hoist things were also
good guesses, I had considered them before but they are a little
noisy, a bit too slow, and figuring out what to do with the length of
chain in the loop as you travel away from and closer too the hoist
brings other problems.
The best thing you have given me so far was the first URL from the
Cornell University Library. That was really kool.
As I said earlier, I?m new to this service and I?m not sure how much
more time I have on the meter. I don?t know how you charge. If I
have time left, by all means keep looking.
I appreciate the effort. ?Do you have a nose ring by any chance?
Thanks, Uncle Wiggly
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
24 Jul 2004 20:55 PDT
Dear Uncle Wiggly,
I have done additional research and found the following information.
Hand Elevator
Title: Manufacturer and builder / Volume 23, Issue 11
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0023%2F&tif=00255.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0023-593
Larsen's Improved Dumb-Waiter
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0025%2F&tif=00144.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0025-370
Hand-Power Sidewalk Elevator
Title: Manufacturer and builder / Volume 22, Issue 10
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0022%2F&tif=00227.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0022-520
mproved Hoisting Machinery (1)
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0013%2F&tif=00254.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0013-652
Improved Hoisting Machinery (2)
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0015%2F&tif=00203.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0015-557
Automatic Freight & Package Elevator: pp. 145-146
Page 145
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0014%2F&tif=00153.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0014-341
Page 146
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0014-341&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0014%2F&tif=00153.TIF&pagenum=154
Paragon Self-Retaining Dumb-Waiter: pp. 224
http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fmanu%2Fmanu0026%2F&tif=00230.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABS1821-0026-616
This has been a difficult project and for that reason I have been
posting my findings for your review in the clarification box in order
to verify if the information is relevant. I have not been able to
locate any other information. If my findings are satisfactory, just
let me know and I?ll post them as the official answer to your question
in order to claim the fee.
Sincerely,
Bobbie7
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
26 Jul 2004 01:20 PDT
Dear Uncle Wiggly,
Would you need additional information?
Thanks,
Bobbie7
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Clarification of Question by
unclewiggly13-ga
on
26 Jul 2004 05:47 PDT
Hi Bobbie,
I got busy this weekend and it has taken some time to look over what
you last sent me. I understand that you want to get paid for the work
you have done. If I want to try another search at a later time is
there a way the next researcher can find out what has been done so
that he/she does not have to go over ground that has already been
covered?
So far, the best things you have sent were "Improved Dumb-Waiter and
Hand Elevator" and the "Paragon Self-Retaining Dumb-waiter", two
different articles on a device that looks pretty much the same.
Tell me your thoughts on this.
Thanks, Uncle Wiggly
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Request for Question Clarification by
bobbie7-ga
on
26 Jul 2004 06:57 PDT
> If I want to try another search at a later time is there a way the
next researcher can find out what has been done so that he/she does
not have to go over ground that has already been covered?<
Yes
If at a future date you decide to ask another question on this same
subject all you have to do is provide the link to your previous
question and mention that you already have that specific information.
Here is the link:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=378422
Thanks,
Bobbie7
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