What company manufactures tissue paper in Canada? There should not be
many companies doing this. The tissue paper I am referring to is the
kind used for wrapping gifts (stuffing the boxes/shopping bags/gift
bags that contain the gift). It is soft and comes in variety of
colors, or sometimes with custom printed patterns. I need an actual
manufacturer, not a wholesaler.

Hi, cdsell69-ga,

There "less than a handful" of companies in Canada that manufacture
gift wrapping tissue paper, according to Custom Paper (
http://www.custompaper.ca/ ). There may be smaller manufacturers such
as St. Armand ( http://www.aquarelle.ca/avril98/papermill.html ) who
aren't part of the Canadian Pulp and Paper Association. He told me
they also buy from a company called Saites, however I couldn't confirm
with that company as they are in a different time zone and are closed
for the day. I am including their contact information for you anyway.

The owner of Custom Paper told me that Saites does A1 acid-free
tissue, but there are no manufacturers in Canada who produce coloured
or printed gift wrap tissue paper. For his custom orders, he buys the
paper from Norway or US distributors, and he also has the paper
printed from US suppliers for custom orders as there are no Canadian
companies that do the same work.

He also suggested that quantity is an issue with getting the best deal
-- smaller runs will be prohibitively expensive because the drums
cost.

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- Gift Wrapping Tissue -
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J. Ford & Co. Ltd.
Head Office, Trade Enquiries and Mill
200 rue du Moulin, Portneuf, Québec G0A 2Y0
Tel. 418-286-2271 Fax 418-286-2264
from: http://www.cppa.org/english-backup020107/cppa/members/jford.html

Saites Paper Products Ltd
2 Vata Crt, Aurora, ON L4G 4B6
Phone: (905)727-3188  
(UNCONFIRMED)

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- Glassine, Specialty Papers -
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Domtar Inc.
Trade Enquiries for Paper
Domtar Inc. - Domtar Papers Division
 Windsor Business Unit: 609 R.R. #12, P.O. Box 1010 Windsor, Québec
J1S 2L9 Tel. 819-845-8306 Fax 819-845-8230
Cornwall Business Unit: 800 2nd Street West, Cornwall, Ontario K6H 5S3
Tel. 613-938-4508 Fax 613-938-4511
from: http://www.cppa.org/english-backup020107/cppa/members/domtar.html
Website: http://www.domtar.com/paper/home.asp

You can also find manufacturers for many other types of paper (some
you might not have considered) in the full list of products created by
members of the Canadian Pulp and Paper Association (
http://www.cppa.org/english-backup020107/cppa/products/allprod.htm ).
Finding information on Nexfor (listed under Glassine in the CPPA
pages) led to Fraser papers, who do not produce tissue paper.

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- Search Strategy -
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I first called distributors I know locally, asking for supplier or
manufacturer information. Only one would give out the name of the
manufacturer of the tissue paper (archival) that they sell. The others
have internal policies restricting this information.

The one who was more forthcoming gave me the start. From there, I
followed the trail. Glassine paper is archival tissue paper. Searches
for "tissue paper" were delivering predominantly toilet tissue, a
false trail.

After I found some manufacturing information, I contacted a local
distributor (large-scale) to confirm.

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- Google Search Terms & Resulting Pages -
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st. armand tissue archival
( http://www.paintspot.ab.ca/Whats_New02.txt )
Glassine Paper manufacturer canada
( http://www.wlu.ca/~wwwgeog/special/vgt/English/can_mod2/unit9.htm )
Canadian Pulp and Paper Association (searched on site for "glassine")
( http://www.cppa.org/english-backup020107/cppa/products/allprod.htm )
canadian gift wrap tissue paper printing
( http://custompaper.ca/ ) (called them to confirm research)

:) zerocattle-ga

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Clarification of Answer by zerocattle-ga on 10 Jul 2002 10:20 PDT

Hi cdsell69-ga,

I can't confirm the Saites contact information, sadly. The phone
company says their number is not listed and may possibly be a
subsidiary. The number I reported in my Answer doesn't ring through.

There are a lot of companies that do "conversion", but only one
confirmed manufacturer of tissue paper.

To clarify, glassine paper is a coated archival tissue-paper weight
product intended for protecting fabric, photographs, et cetera. So the
only gift wrap tissue manufacturer in Canada that can be confirmed and
is large scale (not small private company like St. Armand) would be
the J. Ford company in Montreal.

I called them this morning and they confirmed they are manufacturers
of tissue paper (not converters, resellers, distributers, et cetera)
and that they were unaware of other jumbo roll manufacturers in
Canada.

:) zerocattle-ga

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Request for Answer Clarification by cdsell69-ga on 17 Jul 2002 11:58 PDT

Hi. 
My bosses came back from vacation and we called all of the companies
that you referred me to, and we used all of the companies in the
lists. None of the companies had the what we need, which is 20 lbs
colored tissue paper.

We absolutely need this paper. Furthermore, as I specified in my
original question, there should only be one or two manufacturers of
this type of paper in Canada.

So there's nothing to help us in the answers so far.

Eyal

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Clarification of Answer by zerocattle-ga on 17 Jul 2002 12:49 PDT

Hi cdsell69 --

J. Ford & Co. Ltd. 
Head Office, Trade Enquiries and Mill 
200 rue du Moulin, Portneuf, Québec G0A 2Y0 
Tel. 418-286-2271 Fax 418-286-2264 
from: http://www.cppa.org/english-backup020107/cppa/members/jford.html
 
This is the company in Canada that manufactures tissue paper. There is
no company in Canada that manufactures coloured tissue paper. None.
It's not done here.

If you want the names of companies who will convert the jumbo rolls of
tissue paper to coloured/patterned, I can find that for you, there are
many in Canada who perform this service. Most companies, however, buy
from the US or Norway, as I said in the Answer.

Please advise.

:) zerocattle-ga

While the answer provided was detailed, it did not satisfy our specific
need. The answer was close. The researchers were obviously trying their
best, but we are looking for a specific product that they could not find,
and we are sure that there is either 1 or 2 companies in Canada who
manufacture that product. In any case, no manufacturer of the product was
found, therefore, the answer is not useful for us.

Hello cdsell69-ga,

I was attempting to research your question as well, so I thought I'd
let you know what I found.

Zerocattle-ga appears to be right.  There is very little to be found
for manufacturers of tissue paper in Canada.

SEARCH STRATEGY:

I used a slightly different approach and investigated the Canadian
Trade Index ( http://www.nexport.com/index.htm ).  They have an index
that can be searched by company name and product description.  You are
asked to register (which is free) to use this feature.  This index
provides company name and contact information, as well as links to
their web site if available.

Searching the Canadian Trade Index with the keywords "tissue paper"
brings up only one match, for the Montreal Paper Company. You can do a
more general search with just "paper" but you will get about 200
matches, some of which may quite possibly manufacture the type of
paper you are looking for.  I didn't find any, but I very well could
have missed something. It may be worth you time to contact some of the
specialty paper manufacturers directly, because several of them do not
have websites or complete product lines available on-line.

I followed the hyperlink to MPC inc. ( http://www.mpcpaper.com ) and
verified that they do manufacture the type of tissue paper to which
you referred. To do so from the homepage:
1)select preferred language (English or French)
2)select "Packaging Division" from the left-hand sidebar
3)Scroll to the bottom of the page where product categories are listed
and select "Misc" (for miscellaneous).
4)this will bring up a picture and description of what they call "Cap
Paper."

CANADIAN MANUFACTURER OF TISSUE PAPER:

Montreal Paper Cutting, Inc.
1825 Cabot
Montreal, QC 
H4E 1E2 
Fax: 514-765-3091 
Toll Free Phone: 877-765-0990 
E-Mail: info@mpcpaper.com 
Web Site : http://mpcpaper.com/

Hello again,

My sincere apologies.  I did not mean to post that comment so soon.  

One correction: The final web address should, of course, read:
http://www.mpcpaper.com

Also, you may directly access the page regarding "Cap Paper" by
following this hyperlink:
http://www.mpcpaper.com/html/misc.html

I hope this information is helpful.

Kind regards,
rjoy-ga

I have searched Walden's ABC Guide to the paper industry which was
first published in 1885 and have not been able to confirm a Canadian
manufacturer of wrapping tissue.  You must search under both
manufacturer (includes paper mills) and convertor (includes
manufacturers who buy paper and print it or cut it from very large
rolls into small rolls)

There are two other sources that I will pursue on your behalf tomorrow
by phone.  These are:

Canadian Paper Trade Association
111 Peters Street, Suite 527
Toronto Ontario
Canada M5V 2H1
Tel: 416 971-7800
Fax: 416 971-5411
Contact: Don Mockford

Often trade groups will have resources that are not readily available
online.

Mayer Packaging
204 774 1651

There was a listing for this company on one of the distributor sites
as a possible vendor.

I'll publish to the results of these two contacts sometime tomorrow.

seedy

I tried searching for "tissue paper" (Canada OR Canadian)(Manufacturer
OR Manufacturing) and found the custompaper.ca link as well as a
sponsored link
to http://www.directory.bellzinc.ca/bellzinc/english/queries/c_mfglist.asp?stype=114856&sFrom=wandtypes&SearchLanguage=1
a link to Canadian tissue paper
manufacturers. 

The 2nd link http://www.emballagetout.ca/  manufacturers over 50
colors of tissue paper that can be personalized as well.

thanks for the response. I will check out the links you have sent.
The problem with http://www.emballagetout.ca/ - a company we know very
well, is basically that they lie. They do not manufacture tissue
paper. They have a manufacturer do what they say, inluding
custom-producing tissue paper (they are able to do this since they
need tons of tissue paper) and the manufacturer sells it to them. Then
they go out calling themselves manufacturers.

The unforunate truth is that they are not alone in this misleading
practice.
I will check out he links you gave me, but as far as I know there is
maybe 5% chance that the number of tisue paper manufacturers in Canada
is greater than 2.

thanks,
Eyal

What a wonderful comment by mydogrex.  The website of the L'emballage
Tout Inc. does indicate they "convert" papers in Canada.

Calling Mayer Packaging in Winnepeg at 204 774 1651 resulted in more
information about their company.  They manufacture recycled white
wrapping tissue in Canada adn also have colored recycled content
tissue available.  They "convert" this colored tissue in Canada bring
it in big rolls from Europe cutting it into small rolls or sheets in
Canada.  They also have gift wrap available that has been "converted"
in Canada which may include printed in Canada.

The association website  
   http://www.fpac.ca/english/cppa/members/allmem.htm

respresents all members of the Canadian Pulp and Paper Association
which location was detailed in my previous comment.

We hope you are able to find the sourcing you require from the
infomation provided in the answer and comments provided by
answers.google.com.
Thank you for your interesting question.

seedy

Thanks a lot  :)

You guys are truly doing very nice work.

It will take us a few days to look into all of these companies and
links, and call them up and everything.

Eyal

About Emballage Tout:

While their website may indicate they "convert" papers in Canada, one
wonders what their defenition of "we" is. (When referring to
themselves).
The bottom line is we know for a fact that their tissue paper
originates somewhere else.

P.S. why is my name cdsell69-ga?  =)
what does ga stand for ?

Hi, cdsell69,

The -ga means "Google Answers".

:) zerocattle-ga