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Subject: Status fo a derelict PROPERTY in Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: vinnage-ga
List Price: $200.00
Posted: 26 Jul 2004 18:24 PDT
Expires: 25 Aug 2004 18:24 PDT
Question ID: 379458
There are 2 very large derelict buildings which would make beautiful
homes. One has a burned out roof. This is the most interesting to me.
They are south facing and have been very grand well to do houses.
There appears to be no subsidence and the stonework. There is a plaque
on the eastern (unburned) house which reads 'Property of University of
Northumbria' (not Newcastle University). They are opposite number 59
on Elmfield Road, Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne. All the othe houses
around them are beautiful and very expensive. My question is: what's
the catch? Are there covenants, controversies, plans by the
University. I just want to buy one or both and make it into my home.
They are the only derelict houses in a very sought after area so you
should find them more easily.

Clarification of Question by vinnage-ga on 26 Jul 2004 18:27 PDT
Sorry, I meant that it was the unburned property (the Eastern) side
that I was interested in. Any news articles? Any information
whatsoever.

Request for Question Clarification by rainbow-ga on 27 Jul 2004 02:59 PDT
Hi vinnage,

While researching your question, I have sent out some emails with
inquries on this property. I will let you know of any feedback I
receive.

Best regards,
Rainbow

Request for Question Clarification by rainbow-ga on 28 Jul 2004 08:26 PDT
Hi vinnage,

After two days of working on your question, mostly through
corresponding by email with various contacts, I would like to update
you on my progress so far.

Many of my contacts were various realtors in the area of Gosforth. I
have had quite a few responses, many of them not knowing much about
this property. However, few have some knowledge, and the following are
some of their responses:


"Thanks for contacting us, I do know which properties you mean and I
will find out if they are still owned by the university. I will look
into it and get back to you."
(I have not heard from them again yet)


"You refer to properties opposite no. 59 Elmfield Road  -  all the
University Of Northumbria property is on the side which has odd
numbers. The property is about to be redeveloped and is owned by one
of the house building companies.
Hope this assists you."


"I regret that I know nothing about these properties other than where
they are and that they have been like that for a long time.I would
expect that the people to consult would be Newcastle upon Tyne City
Council who will know who is responsible for paying the taxes on these
properties and The University of Northumbria,Newcastle upon Tyne who
appear to own one of them."


Quite a few have written suggesting I get in touch with the University
and/or Newcastle upon Tyne City Council. I have done so and am waiting
to hear back from them.


Meanwhile, I  contacted Tyne & Wear Archives Service who replied with this:

"Thank you for your message.
As these properties belong to Northumbria University, it would
probably be best to approach them for this sort of information. You
may also be able to get information on any planning applications from
Newcastle City Council.
We may be able to supply historical information on these properties
but we have a paid research service for anything other than short,
specific enquiries."

I replied to them asking for their fees for this research and whether
they could assure you that information on this property was available.
Their Chief Archivist's reply was this:

"Our paid research service costs £20 per hour and details are on our website.
I'm afraid that we can't guarantee the availability of information, as
stated in our terms there.
Again, I would suggest that Northumbria University would be the best
source for the type of information your client is looking for."


This message, from a realtor in Newcastle, seems most interesting: 

Thank you for your enquiry. As far as we are aware these properties
are not for sale. A while ago our proprietor enquired into the
possibility of sale for one of our own clients. Northumbria University
advised that they have no
plans to sell. I would be very suprised if N.U. Properties Department
aren't aware of the value of these properties after renovation and as
such I do not think these properties would be made available for sale
before renovations
were made.
Sorry I could not give more detailed information."


I hope this has helped a little. I will inform you of any further
responses I receive.

Best regards,
Rainbow

Request for Question Clarification by rainbow-ga on 29 Jul 2004 07:04 PDT
Hi vinnage,

I just received this very informative message from the Newcastle
Planning Council - Planning Control Department which should help you
get closer to the answers you are looking for.

"You can obtain a planning history on both property by going to
http://gispublic.newcastle.gov.uk/publicaccess/ and clicking into
property search. You can enter the street name and then identify your
property, this will give you an option for planning history going back
to 1974. If you wanted to see any covenants on the properties, this
will be held on the title deeds. You can contact Durham Land Registry
on 0191 3013500. Durham Land Registry
holds the title deeds to all property in the area. You will need to
contact the owners of both properties to see what/if they have plans
for the properties.

Should you need any further planning advice, please contact me at
alan.chambers@newcastle.gov.uk or telephone me on 0191 2777289.

Regards,

Alan Chambers
Administrative Assistant
Planning Control"


I hope this helps.

Best wishes,
Rainbow

Clarification of Question by vinnage-ga on 01 Aug 2004 04:44 PDT
Thank you very much for the information so far. I am satisfied with my
answers which I can chase up, but if anything else comes through,
please send it to me. Other than that, I consider your work done.
Thank you. Yours faithfully, Gavin Zibe.
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Subject: Re: Status fo a derelict PROPERTY in Newcastle upon Tyne UK
Answered By: rainbow-ga on 01 Aug 2004 06:00 PDT
 
Hello Gavin,

Thank you for accepting the information I have found as an answer to
your question.

If and when anything else comes through from the contacts I have made,
I will let you know.

Best wishes,
Rainbow

Clarification of Answer by rainbow-ga on 23 Aug 2004 12:36 PDT
Hi Gavin,

Today I received the following message from a source whom I had
previously contacted:

"This site is owned by a developer and recently bought from
Northumbria University who used the buildings as halls of residence
for students. There have been several planning applications for
redevelopment of the site. The latest is for retention of the existing
buildings and the erection of some flats in the grounds.
The details of the scheme should be accessible on the Newcastle Council website
www.newcastle .gov.uk  following the public access for planning link
and under reference 2004/1729/01/DET.
Hope this is helpful."

I hope the above information helps.

Best wishes,
Rainbow
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