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How Old is Grannie?
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: probonopublico-ga List Price: $2.00 |
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26 Jul 2004 22:51 PDT
Expires: 30 Jul 2004 08:01 PDT Question ID: 379524 |
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Re: How Old is Grannie?
From: sublime1-ga on 26 Jul 2004 23:56 PDT |
Hi Bryan... I think it was the fault of my generation... I was born in 1947... ; ) |
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From: rossgmann-ga on 27 Jul 2004 00:27 PDT |
I feel that your answer is wrong. The following is an extract from the following web site http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/baird_logie.shtml Re "John Logie Baird" who is said to have invented TeleVision By 1924 he managed to transmit across a few feet the flickering image of a Maltese cross and on 26th January 1926 he gave the world's first demonstration of true television in his attic workshop before some fifty scientists. In 1927 his television was demonstrated over 438 miles of telephone line between London and Glasgow, and he formed the Baird Television Development Company, Ltd. (BTDC). In 1928 the BTDC achieved the first transatlantic television transmission between London and New York and the first transmission to a ship in mid-Atlantic. He also gave the first demonstration of both colour and stereoscopic television. Kind regards Ross |
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From: pinkfreud-ga on 27 Jul 2004 01:35 PDT |
I expect that when Grannie said she was "born before television," she meant that she was born before television was available in her area. I have often told youngsters that I was born before television; in 1948, when I was born, my hometown (Tulsa, Oklahoma) did not yet have a television station. |
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From: markj-ga on 27 Jul 2004 05:43 PDT |
The only thing that struck me as wrong on first reading was the price of a Chevy. I was a teenager at that time and very much into cars (although I did not own my first -- very used -- car until 1966) and $600 seems way too low for a Chevrolet. The site linked below gives the list prices of all 1959 Chevy models, which ranged from $2400-$3000: http://www.chevy59.com/data.htm The most striking then to me about cars then and now is that then one could easily tell one car from another, whereas they all seem to look alike these days. markj-ga |
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From: markj-ga on 27 Jul 2004 05:45 PDT |
Scratch that -- I now see that Granny is 58, not that she was born in 1958, Silly me. It's early here in Eastern Time Zone. |
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From: probonopublico-ga on 27 Jul 2004 06:13 PDT |
Yes, Rossgmann You are absolutely right with regards to John Logie Baird but, in fact, the first television transmission SERVICE in the UK started in 1936 from Alexandra Palace, London. Why in 1924, we didn't even have any decent radio stations! The 1936 tv service was provided by the BBC but it could only be received within a few miles of London and the programme content was awful. Now, who would want to watch a man spinning a rope on ten different occasions during the same day? YES there were LOTS of repeats (so what's new?) and very few takers. Service was then suspended due to a little bit of a trouble with some fellow called Hitler. In the UK, the thing that really gave television a kick start was the Coronation of Queen Elizbeth II in 1953. The UK was obviously behind the US as a service provider, as evidenced by the programmes that were imported. Of course, being first is not always the best. What is the American colour (color) system called? Is it Never (the) Same Color Twice? However, the detail supporting the question was provided by some Grannie in the US where, as Pinkfreud reveals, reception was patchy. I didn't write the story, I just posted the Question. Incidentally, I can PROVE that I am not nor am I ever likely to become a Grannie. And we can't blame, Sublime1, because he is too young. |
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From: ac67-ga on 27 Jul 2004 07:12 PDT |
If she was born in 1946, she was also not before penicillin, which was discovered in the 1920's and was starting to become available in larger quantities during WWII, where it was used to treat casualties from D-Day, for instance. |
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From: probonopublico-ga on 27 Jul 2004 07:24 PDT |
Yes, ac67, but penicillin wasn't synthesised until the Fifties. http://www.lib.niu.edu/ipo/iht810139.html Dammit, are you calling Grannie a liar? She was THERE remember, so she should know. Trust Grannie! |
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From: ac67-ga on 27 Jul 2004 09:19 PDT |
Yes, I'm calling Grannie a liar, because frozen foods were around since 1930 :-) http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfrfood.htm |
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From: aj999-ga on 27 Jul 2004 10:46 PDT |
If Grannie is from the US, why does she use the British spellings of centre and yoghurt rather than center and yogurt? |
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From: probonopublico-ga on 27 Jul 2004 10:50 PDT |
Hi, ac67 Well, maybe, but here in the UK we didn't have any domestic fridges until maybe the Fifties. Anyway, I have just had confirmation from an American Grannie who tells me that it was so and she was born in 1947. Now, I'm guessing ... you are not old enough to be a Grannie ... Right? How did I know? Because you believe EVERYTHING you read! Trust your Grannie! |
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From: probonopublico-ga on 27 Jul 2004 10:53 PDT |
Good question, aj999. That's because I 'edited' Grannie's material (mainly reformatting) and living in the UK my spell checker suggested the alterations. Like a fool, I accepted the changes never realising (realizing) that the spelling was going to come under scrutiny. Well spotted! But that doesn't change the content, merely the presentation. Does it? |
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From: aj999-ga on 27 Jul 2004 11:28 PDT |
No, the British spellings just jumped out at this American with a proofreader's heart. The content clues made it pretty clear that Grannie was from the US. With the British spelling and the nickel, but without the President, I'd have said she was Canadian ... But to stop quibbling and consider the question semi-seriously, what exactly has gone so wrong? Many of the things Grannie didn't know as a child were improvements in the past 6 decades. I'm more liberal than many people, but the following represent good progress to me: People going to the moon. Innovations in medicine, household appliances and electronics. Contact lenses. Gay rights. The growing acceptance of families of all kinds (i.e., without a mother and a father, or a woman not needing a husband to have a baby). Frozen foods. Guys wearing earrings. Freedom to live without being governed by one religion's commandments, when you don't practice that religion. The decline of Jack Benny, Tommy Dorsey and big bands. ;-) I could go on, and reasonable people could disagree with some or even all of these things. |
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From: tutuzdad-ga on 27 Jul 2004 11:40 PDT |
Who says it?s all gone wrong since 1947? Maybe it went wrong BEFORE 1947: In 1900? A ?big band? was found on a hat, a ?car? was part of a train. A ?camel? was an animal and a ?Lucky Strike? was a gold mine. A ?chick? was a bird, a ?cat? was what chased it and your ?daddy? would have slapped you away from the table for saying ?boogie-woogie? even though neither of you would have known what it meant. ?Charleston? was a place, if you bought music you got it on a piece of paper, UNCLE SAM ?didn?t? WANT YOU and junk was made in Nippon. The only Yellow Pages were found in your Grandmother?s Bible, chicken costs 7 cents a pound, if you wanted gas you ate beans, and the Wright Brothers were still scratching their heads about bicycle chains. There was a hat for every man ? and every man wore one. You didn?t have to ask people what they were doing on Sunday, air conditioning could only be found out on the porch, and you called your Mother-in-law ?Mother? too -- and you ?both? liked it that way. |
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From: probonopublico-ga on 27 Jul 2004 11:52 PDT |
Aha, aj999, Have you never heard of Nostalgia? I'm told that older folk always believe that things were better in 'their days'. And please don't worry about your American-type Proof Reader's Heart. My medical friends tell that although serious, it can be fixed. They're called transplants. See if you can find a donor. Maybe an old Grannie? You will then be able to survive AND also to discover how much better things really were in the Olden Days. By the way, I don't think that they did heart transplants in Grannie's days. Did they? So aren't you glad you are living now so that maybe you will be able enjoy the best of both worlds? You lucky dog! |
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From: probonopublico-ga on 27 Jul 2004 11:56 PDT |
Hi, Tutuzdad Brilliant Comment. Now, if you were to post that as an Answer it would allow you to buy Tutu and her siblings a little bit of something. Bryan |
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From: tutuzdad-ga on 27 Jul 2004 12:29 PDT |
Aw, what's two bucks between friends? ...about $20 in 1900 http://www.aier.org/cgi-aier/colcalculator.cgi |
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From: digsalot-ga on 27 Jul 2004 12:37 PDT |
Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be. |
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From: mikomoro-ga on 27 Jul 2004 22:36 PDT |
It seems to me that Grannie has taken an uncompromisingly bleak view and that Tutuzdad has placed all her regrets within a broader perspective by taking a deeper look at human progress over the past century. She has assumed that everything was great in The Good Old Days when it manifestly wasn't. Take infant mortality, the effects of diptheria, small pox, cholera and lots of other water-bourn diseases. And where would we be today without electricity, the telephone, affordable air travel, domestic appliances, etc.? I bet Granny would not want to be without all her household gadgetry, or her car, or her health care plan, or her pension, or her tv ... OK, so nothing is perfect but all that any Man or Woman can do is his or her best. Of course, we always glamourise the past. But was Robin Hood really a public-spirited citizen who robbed the rich to give to the poor? I disagree with Digsalot, even Nostalgia is better than it used to be because we're all living longer thanks to the various improvements in public services such as treated water and better health care. So, we now have the potential to live longer during which we can then look back to the great times we have had in the past. Subject to a nuclear holocaust. |
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From: touf-ga on 28 Jul 2004 12:54 PDT |
Unfortunately, all good technology produces bad side effects as well. To paraphrase a quote I read once, "every time you solve a problem by inventing something, you create ten new problems". Take cars -- wow, they improve transportation immensely! Awesome invention. Problems: traffic, pollution, demand on natural resources, road rage, drunk driving, accidents, all these old junk cars we have to store in junkyards, etc... Nuclear technology is also a big one -- wow, super cheap, super clean, super reliable power. Oh, then there's the bad parts -- Hiroshima, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, cancer, well, you get the idea. Just depends how we use it. As humans, we are the only species on this earth capable of consciously preserving and/or destroying this earth. As Uncle Ben said in Spiderman, "with great power comes great responsibility". We have the power, it's just that, as humans, we aren't very responsible. |
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