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Subject: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: robertprather-ga
List Price: $5.00
Posted: 09 Jul 2002 16:04 PDT
Expires: 24 Jul 2002 09:18 PDT
Question ID: 37971
I'm looking for the source of the following quote (or very similar):
"an axe to grind and plenty of fury to turn the wheel"

Request for Question Clarification by justaskscott-ga on 09 Jul 2002 18:24 PDT
"An axe to grind" is a common expression, but I'm not finding anything
like "plenty of fury to turn the wheel."

Where did you hear this phrase?  Is it something you've heard a friend
or family member say?  Did you read it somewhere?  Or did you hear it
on the radio, on TV, or in a movie?

Any information you have on the phrase might be helpful.

Clarification of Question by robertprather-ga on 09 Jul 2002 19:21 PDT
It is posted on Instapnudit.com and I'm trying to find out where it
originated.  The guy who runs InstPundit is a lawyer so it may be from
a legal person or it could be from classic literature or from a
politician.  He put it on his website as a challenge to readers and I
looked high and low throughout google and other engines and couldn't
find it.  Then I turned to you.

Clarification of Question by robertprather-ga on 23 Jul 2002 00:01 PDT
Yes, I'm sure it's a quote.  I got the part about the grindstone but I
don't think that's what he's looking for.
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Subject: Re: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
From: zerocattle-ga on 10 Jul 2002 11:47 PDT
 
Note to other researchers: 

http://www.instapundit.com/archives/002118.php is the post in question.

:) zerocattle-ga
Subject: Re: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
From: robertprather-ga on 10 Jul 2002 13:25 PDT
 
Can also be found in this post, where the challenge is made:
http://www.instapundit.com/archives/002237.php#002237.
Subject: Re: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
From: starrebekah-ga on 12 Jul 2002 17:47 PDT
 
I KNOW I have heard this quote before, and I'm racking my brain trying
to figure out where.  Somehow, I think it might have been Judge Judy,
actually -- or a similar TV judge, although I had no evidence to
support this.  Maybe that info will help someone else ring a bell..
and I'll keep looking for you.

-Rebekah
Subject: Re: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
From: robertprather-ga on 12 Jul 2002 21:24 PDT
 
Thank you, I would love to know who said this.  Once it's found I'll
put it on my web page and it will reside on the internet from now on.
Subject: Re: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
From: starrebekah-ga on 13 Jul 2002 00:54 PDT
 
You know, it could have been "Murder, She Wrote" (the other TV show
I've been watching way too much of lately).  I could be TOTALLY off,
but I know I've heard it in the last few days, and I have a hunch, or
feeling that it's from an older lady who's in the truth finding
business.  (Which may be why the lawyer quoted it?)

I don't know, maybe I need to go to bed, will think of it tomorrow
hopefully...

-Rebekah
Subject: Re: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
From: starrebekah-ga on 13 Jul 2002 11:58 PDT
 
Robert,

  Interestingly enough, this hunt for this quote is making other
webpages as well!! :)   Check out this link, where they mentioned it
today!

http://relapsedcatholic.blogspot.com/

This is DRIVING ME CRAZY! :)  Back to the drawing board,

-Rebekah
Subject: Re: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
From: draco-ga on 22 Jul 2002 00:31 PDT
 
Are we sure this is an actual quote ? i.e. it has a definitive source?
The reason I ask is that the phrase is an old one - an axe (and
knives) are sharpened on a grindstone, blacksmiths use a grinding
wheel, turned by handle and the implement is sharpened by turning the
wheel by hand, so the phrase "makes sense" - the more fury you have
the greater strength and stamina to turn the wheel for longer to give
a sharper blade.
Maybe I am just stating the obvious, but thats what I always thought
was the derivation of this phrase.
Subject: Re: This is a quote, not necessarily famous
From: robertprather-ga on 24 Jul 2002 09:17 PDT
 
The answer is: "I have an axe to grind, and plenty of fury to turn the
wheel." The source is Arthur Allen Leff's article, Economic Analysis
of Law: Some Realism About Nominalism, in the Virginia Law Review. The
cite is 60 Va. L. Rev. 451, 456 (1974).

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