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Subject: Digital camera for taking nightclub pictures
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Visual Arts
Asked by: severisth-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 28 Jul 2004 13:58 PDT
Expires: 27 Aug 2004 13:58 PDT
Question ID: 380447
What would be a few good cameras, from budget to high quality, for
taking pictures in a nightclub?

Here are some samples from the nightclub in question:
http://www.barbum.com/photos.php?club=49&date=2004-06-11

Request for Question Clarification by till-ga on 28 Jul 2004 14:28 PDT
Itīs very difficult to give you a good advice without a little bit
more information.
If you require good - excellent quality you wonīt be happy with a very cheap one.
I tested several mid-prize models (under 500 $) and could give you a
lot of examples of photos of live concerts (done with such a good mid
prize model). The light conditions should be rather similar to those
in a night club.

High quality cameras (at serveral thousand dollars) are usually not
necessary unless youīre a professional photographer.
So please provide some more information and Iīll behappy to help you
solve the problem.
- what kind of analog camera do you use at present (if any ?)
- do you need the photos to be printed on paper or just for the web ?
- do you want to use flash photography ?
- do you need a very big range for the zoom ?

till-ga

Clarification of Question by severisth-ga on 28 Jul 2004 20:54 PDT
Hi Till!
To answer your questions, you're correct that I don't need a
professional camera.  Low to Mid-price models is more in the range of
what I'm looking for.
- what kind of analog camera do you use at present (if any ?)
 *No camera at present.
- do you need the photos to be printed on paper or just for the web ?
 *These will be just for the web, which I would say makes the
megapixel count less of a requirement.
- do you want to use flash photography ?
 *Flash photography is preferable, both to combat the darkness and to
attract attention
- do you need a very big range for the zoom ?
 *We can get by without zoom because it won't be difficult to get
close to the subjects.

Also, I'm thinking that some sort of advanced redeye reduction would
be preferable.  If there are any other features you can think of which
would be useful in a nightclub, please comment on them!  My camera
knowledge is fairly limited.
Answer  
Subject: Re: Digital camera for taking nightclub pictures
Answered By: till-ga on 29 Jul 2004 00:46 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Allright, now itīs possible to provide the required information.
In the last years the market of digital cameras has been rapidly
growing and many manufacturers provide models in the low to mid-prize
range.

I tested several cameras in the last years and use (and love!) a
Panasonic DMC LC 40 at present. Why the Panasonic ?
Please forget all the stuff you may read in ads about megapixels as a
sign for quality of a camera. Very important is a good lens system as
itīs always the key to good results and Panasonic decided to cooperate
with the very famous manufacturer Leica. Most photographers will be
enthusiatic about the superb quality of Leica optics, a company that
has a lot of experience and an excellent reputation in the
manufacturing of high quality cameras.
And Panasonic is one of the best companies in the field of electronic equipment.
The DMS LC 40 is very compact, when doing my concert photography I can
put the small camera in my trouserīs pocket. So the camera is robust
as well, another advantage you may find useful.

The Pananasonic DMC LC Series use a Leica DC Vario-Summicron Lens.
When I saw the  cameras features I thought that me as an amateur could
not afford it as it seemed to be (and indeed is) a semi-professional
product.
I was very happy to find out that the camera was in the affordable
mid-prize region. Two years ago I paid about 700 Euros for my LC 40
but prices have reduced and the camera will be available at less than
200 $. Thatīs the very best value you can get for your money !
Sure it has a red-eye reduction built in, but you will be astonished
that rather often you may take photos without having got to use the
flash as the optics are really excellent.

Here are some technical key features of the camera:

"4-Megapixel CCD yields up to 2240 x 1680 pixel images 
LEICA DC VARIO-SUMMICRON 3x f/2 zoom (33 - 100mm 35mm equiv) 
1.8-inch color LCD 
320 x 240 QuickTime Movie mode w/audio up to 75 secs 
Auto, Program AE, Aperture-priority, Shutter speed-priority and Scene
exposure modes
Auto Exposure Bracketing of 3 or 5 frames 
Multi or Spot metering 
Built-in multimode flash 
ISO sensitivity; Auto, 100, 200 or 400 fixed 
Five second audio notes can be attached to images 
A/V output with selectable NTSC or PAL video 
Epson PRINT Image Matching compatible 
Secure Digital or MultiMediaCard removable storage 
Lithium rechargeable battery 1400mAh and charger included"
from:
( http://www.steves-digicams.com/2002_reviews/lumix_lc40.html )

I found a very good offer for the DMC LC 40:

$ 199,95, shipped within 1-3 days at:
( http://www.refurbdepot.com/productdetails2.cfm?Product_ID=2182&refererid=dealtime
)

If you should have problems to get the LC 40 (as thereīs a new model
out) please ask for the DMC LC 43.

Alternatives ?
In case i could not convince you of the superb quality and the
excellent prize/value relation of the Panasonic DMC cameras some
others Iīve tested:

- Olympus
( http://imaging-resource.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=2383553/search=Olympus
)
- Casio
( http://imaging-resource.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=1102935/search=Casio
)
- Nikon
( http://imaging-resource.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=2281126/search=Nikon
)
(Very cheap ! about $ 110; I tested a similar one. Condsidering the
low price the results are ok although not in the range ov the
panasonic).

Still Iīd go out and get the LC 40 as long as itīs available !

As promised some photos taken with the LC 40:
( http://www.guildo-online.com/Startseite/2004/Porta_Nigra/Bilder_Porta/P1040318.jpg
)
( http://www.guildo-online.com/Startseite/2004/Porta_Nigra/Bilder_Porta/P1040373.jpg
)
( http://www.guildo-online.com/Startseite/2003/Marl/p1010758/P1010758.jpg )


I hope this helps to solve your problem. If anything should still be
unclear please post a clarification request.

till-ga


Search strategy:
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)

Request for Answer Clarification by severisth-ga on 03 Aug 2004 11:26 PDT
FYI, I just ordered the camera from Refurbdepot.  My client liked
hearing that it was a $900 camera for $200!

One question I should have thought to ask you earlier - how much time
passes from the moment you put the camera up to your eye and press the
button to the time that the flash goes and the picture is taken?  I
had an olympus that was terrible at impromptu photos because it took
about two seconds to actually take the picture.

Also, about how long until the camera is ready to snap another photo?

Clarification of Answer by till-ga on 03 Aug 2004 23:41 PDT
Iīm glad to hear that my answer was helpful.
Several cameras I tested before I got aware of the Panasonic had the
same annoying time lag you mention.
One of the main reasons for me to buy the Panasonic LC 40 was that
thereīs almost NO measurable time lag between the button pressed and
the picture being taken. So thatīs no probem.
Usually you can take another picture instantly, when no flash is
required the camera can take about 4 pictures a second.

till-ga
severisth-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Thank you!  That's exactly what I was looking for.

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