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Subject:
Venice history
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: benard-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
29 Jul 2004 15:27 PDT
Expires: 28 Aug 2004 15:27 PDT Question ID: 380994 |
Around 1600, was Messer Grande, the chief of police, a nobleman elected or a citizen appointed? If the former, how long was his term of office? |
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Re: Venice history
From: fp-ga on 31 Jul 2004 00:56 PDT |
Are you referring to Messer Grande who is mentioned in the Memoirs of Casanova? "The date was July 25th, 1755. Next morning at day-break who should enter my room but the awful Messer-Grande." http://romance-books.classic-literature.co.uk/memoirs-of-jacques-casanova/volume-2d-the-false-nun/ebook-page-35.asp |
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Re: Venice history
From: benard-ga on 31 Jul 2004 05:12 PDT |
Historians also mention Messer Grande and the notes on my edition of Casanova indicate that the man who arrested Casanova had held office for 5 years or so. That suggests he was appointed, because most electoral positions were for limited terms (although some could be renewed without a break). The mere sight of Messer Grande could reputedly break up a riot. He also had a deputy, (Vizio). If appointed he would be a citizen and if elected a noble. |
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Re: Venice history
From: fp-ga on 31 Jul 2004 10:31 PDT |
Well, just in case you understand Italian, "I Servizi Segreti di Venezia" by Paolo Preto should be rather interesting: http://www.sisde.it/sito/Rivista1.nsf/ServNavig/17 http://www.saggiatore.it/index.php?page=autore.home&id=3337 The name of the "Messer Grande" in 1755 was Mattio Varutti ("Il 26 luglio 1755, il capo degli sbirri veneziani Mattio Varutti"): http://art.supereva.it/giacomocasanova.freeweb/page30.html?p http://www.creatores.de/ca23blei.htm "Messer Grande" also written as "Missier Grande" ("Quando il 26 luglio 1755 il Missier Grande"): http://www.filiarmonici.org/casanova.html However, my comment doesn't answer your question. |
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