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Subject:
Looking for a cost-effective analysis of rechargeable batteries vs alkaline.
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: wurzelma-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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30 Jul 2004 08:30 PDT
Expires: 29 Aug 2004 08:30 PDT Question ID: 381299 |
I am particularly interested in "AA" and "AAA". Such a document will answer the following questions. 1. Is battery life (an individual use cycle)comparable between alkaline and rechargeable? (It's my experience that rechargeables do not last as long when used in the same device.) 2. Is there a particular type of rechargeable that has a longer use cycle. (ie provides the same amount of power over a longer period of time.) |
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Re: Looking for a cost-effective analysis of rechargeable batteries vs alkaline.
Answered By: maniac-ga on 31 Jul 2004 15:16 PDT Rated: |
Hello Wurzelma, The answer to part 1 is straight forward as explained at: http://www.epa.gov/etv/pdfs/vrvs/06_vr_rayovac.pdf which describes (in part) the ratio of Rayovac Renewal brand batteries when compared to Rayovac Alkaline batteries. Your experience for a single cycle is basically confirmed by this report. The benefits for rechargeable batteries is reduced overall cost, less waste, and so on. There are a number of other reports / work products at EPA's site - go to http://www.epa.gov/ and use Rayovac in their search system or search on google using rayovac site:epa.gov To part 2 of your question, it is feasible to get more power (or perhaps more "use") by changing technology. For example, a NiMH battery works more effectively in high current devices (e.g., cameras) - see http://www.greenbatteries.com/documents/battery_myths.htm for a list of "battery myths" for example. Note also the self discharge comments about NiMH which work best when recently recharged. http://www.crypto.com/chargers/ is an extensive report on relative performance of batteries, chargers, and usage patterns. http://www.intellicharge.ca/Downloads/by_section/03.pdf part of a much larger report comparing Alkaline, NiMH, and NiCd batteries, usage, and charging. http://www.ussc.com/~turner/nicds.html more anecdotal information, but a good set of links at the end to battery suppliers. On a related page he goes into great detail about LiON batteries which have good power output (e.g, used in Cell phones) but are not made as AA / AAA. Search phrases used to find the answer included: rayovac renewal battery performance renewal alkaline batteries nimh alkaline battery ratio performance Please use a clarification request if you need further detail on this question or if the answer does not fully meet your needs. --Maniac |
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Re: Looking for a cost-effective analysis of rechargeable batteries vs alkaline.
From: just4fun2-ga on 30 Jul 2004 10:30 PDT |
You may find this interesting http://www.bagelhole.org/article.php/Energy/243/ |
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Re: Looking for a cost-effective analysis of rechargeable batteries vs alkaline.
From: kriswrite-ga on 30 Jul 2004 10:58 PDT |
The main thing that determines the life of rechargables is to COMPLETELY use of their "juice" before recharging. If you don't do this, then they aren't all that cost effective. Kriswrite |
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Duracell
From: neilzero-ga on 02 Aug 2004 18:17 PDT |
In 60 years, perhaps 10,000 bateries of about AA and AAA size, only rarely have the rechargable been more cost effective in the way I wanted to use them. Let me hasten to add that we rarely have a choice, for a variety of reasons. The sizes are rarely interchangable and the rechargables are often hard wired into the circuit. The retail price of the Energizer and Duracell batteries has risen sharply in the past year or two, and other brands I have tried seem to be inferior, especailly Rayovac have perhaps 1/2 the capacity and poor shelf life. While recharging is not recomended, I have found it marginally successful, typically increasing the short circuit current by ten and restoring the voltage to about 80% of the new terminal voltage. Admittedly this is not good enough for some applications, such as high load current where the rechargables are typically superior. The special chargers for premium high tech batteries can rarely be used for a different application except by modifing and some risk of battery explosion and short life for the battery. The high tech chargers typically will not recharge a marginal battery, because they think it is already charged. Replacements for both the high tech chargers and batteries are typically so costly that cost effective is very improbable. Occasionally I have has a charging cell pop and spray some caustic potassium lye a few inches, so modest precautons are advised. I disagree with kriswrite. Cells are best discharged to about 70% of rated voltage (not completely) before recharging. 90% is safer when several cells are in series, as the cells are not pefectly matched, so one is likely to reverse polarity, while the others are still close to 100% voltage. You should definately not continue to disharge a multicell battery when the device is working lots poorer than at full charge. Neil |
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