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Marriage by solidius and denarius - "the custom of the Franks"
Category: Reference, Education and News Asked by: fstokens-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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01 Aug 2004 16:58 PDT
Expires: 31 Aug 2004 16:58 PDT Question ID: 382156 |
I have read several references to the medieval French practice of marriage "by solidus and denarius" ("per solidum et denarium"). This was apprently the practice of the groom giving the bride a solidus and a denarius (a gold coin and a silver coin) either at the betrothal or at the wedding. Although I have seen brief mention of this ceremony in several places, the only "primary source" I've been able to find is in the Chronicle of Fredegar (book III, 18,19) where Clovis' envoy to Chlothild presents her with "a solidus and a denarius, as was the custom of the Franks." Neither this nor any other reference I've found gives any details about this "custom of the Franks." I'm looking for another primary source for this custom. I think this will be a tough one, so I'm willing to be a little flexible in what I accept, but I want more than just a vague statment that "this was the custom", and I don't want a reference that just repeats Fredegar. |
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Re: Marriage by solidius and denarius - "the custom of the Franks"
From: letsqueet-ga on 09 Aug 2004 20:58 PDT |
The custom appears to derive from Salic Law: The Salic Law (Lex Salica) is a code of law written around the time of Clovis (476-96) for the Salian Franks, in Latin mixed with Germanic words. It deals mainly with monetary compensations (wehrgeld) and also with civil law with respect to men and land....The Salic Law was reformulated under Charlemagne and still applied in the 9th century, but it slowly disappeared as it became incorporated into local common laws. By the 14th century it was completely forgotten. Here is an interesting link: http://users.pullman.com/fjstevens/tokens/ArrasTokens/FrenchArras.htm I hope this is of some assistance to you, Josh |
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Re: Marriage by solidius and denarius - "the custom of the Franks"
From: fstokens-ga on 10 Aug 2004 21:09 PDT |
Thanks for the comment! I've looked into Salic Law a bit, and there are lots of fines for breaking various rules related to marriage, but I haven't found anything that directly relates to my questions. If someone can point me to a place in Salic Law where it specifies payment of a solidius and a denarius for entering into a "regular" marriage, I would count that as an answer! (A "regular" marriage as opposed to some special case, such as a widow remarrying.) |
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Re: Marriage by solidius and denarius - "the custom of the Franks"
From: fp-ga on 15 Aug 2004 02:09 PDT |
According to the article "Ritual of Marriage" as published in "The Catholic Encyclopedia", Volume IX, 1910: "Most remarkable of all perhaps is the giving of gold and silver by the bridegroom to the bride." "This action takes us back to Tacitus's account of German marriage customs. "The wife", he says, "does not present a dower to her husband, but the husband to the wife" (Germania, xviii). Undoubtedly this is a trace of the primitive sale by which the bridegroom paid a sum of money for the transference to him of the "mund" or right of custody of the bride. Originally that money was paid to the father or guardian, but by successive stages it became a sort of dower for the bride and was represented by the symbolical payment to her of "arrhæ ", the name by which the money thus given in the marriage ceremony is still designated. In certain branches of the Teutonic family, notably the Salians, this form of purchase of a bride was known as marriage "per solidum et denarium"." http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09703b.htm The Catholic Encyclopedia: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/ Tacitus, Germania: http://www.gutenberg.net/dirs/etext01/tctgr10.txt http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/gutbook/lookup?num=2995 http://www.unrv.com/tacitus/tacitus-germania-4.php I suppose Tacitus could be regared as another primary source for this custom. However, I may be mistaken as the article mentioned was written nearly a century ago and recent research may have led to other conclusions. |
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Re: Marriage by solidius and denarius - "the custom of the Franks"
From: fstokens-ga on 15 Aug 2004 07:34 PDT |
Thanks for the comment about Tacitus! Unfortunately, his description is so general that it is impossible to tell if it is related to "marriage by solidius and denarius." The custom of giving gifts at weddings is nearly universal, and while the "direction" Tacitus mentions (husband giving to wife) is the same as the Arras,, that's not enough to make a secure connection. |
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Re: Marriage by solidius and denarius - "the custom of the Franks"
From: fp-ga on 15 Aug 2004 09:08 PDT |
This book could be helpful. However, it seems to be out of print. The laws of the Salian Franks translated and with an introduction by Katherine Fischer Drew Publisher: Philadelphia : University of Pennsylvania Press, 1991. ISBN: 0-81228-256-6 http://isbndb.com/d/book/the_laws_of_the_salian_franks.html With the help of this webpage you should be able to find a library having a copy of this book (however, I am not quite sure if this link will work): http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/ow/2c5a2e523e558b8ba19afeb4da09e526.html ISBN of the paperback edition: 081221322X http://home.achilles.net/~flareau/codification-Francs.html |
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Re: Marriage by solidius and denarius - "the custom of the Franks"
From: fstokens-ga on 15 Aug 2004 19:07 PDT |
Thanks! I've seen the Drew book, and while it has a lot of good information, it doesn't mention "marriage by solidus and denarius." |
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