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Q: Search engine placement. ( Answered 3 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
Subject: Search engine placement.
Category: Arts and Entertainment
Asked by: sturdy-ga
List Price: $2.00
Posted: 02 Aug 2004 22:07 PDT
Expires: 01 Sep 2004 22:07 PDT
Question ID: 382778
My website hasn't been 'spidered' by Google or
othersearch engines.
What can I do about this?
Subject: Re: Search engine placement.
Answered By: serenata-ga on 02 Aug 2004 23:28 PDT
Rated:3 out of 5 stars
Hi Sturdy ~

Actually, your site has been crawled by google at least once, as it
does show up in a search for your domain name:

     "Showing web page information for

      Google can show you the following information for this URL:

    * Find web pages that are similar to
    * Find web pages that link to
    * Find web pages that contain the term ""

   - ://

Clicking on the links for "web pages that link to ..." or "web pages
that contain the term ..." produce no results.

Notice, too, that there is just the URL showing, no page title or
snippet of code describing your site, as there is no text for Google
or other search engine crawlers to index. Here are some valuable
guidelines from Google's Design and Content Guidelines:

     "* Make a site with a clear hierarchy and text links.
        Every page should be reachable from at least one
        static text link...
      * Create a useful, information-rich site and write
        pages that clearly and accurately describe your
      * Think about the words users would type to find your
        pages, and make sure that your site actually includes
        those words within it.
      * Try to use text instead of images to display i
        mportant names, content, or links. The Google crawler
        doesn't recognize text contained in images."
   - ://

In addition, your site uses frames, which make it additionally
difficult for Google to index. Here's the explanation from Google's
"Reasons your site may not be included":

     "Your page uses frames. Google supports frames to the
      extent that it can. Frames tend to cause problems with
      search engines, bookmarks, emailing links and so on,
      because frames don't fit the conceptual model of the
      web (every page corresponds to a single URL). If a
      user's query matches the site as a whole, Google returns
      the frame set. If a user's query matches an individual
      page on the site, Google returns that page. That individual
      page is not displayed in a frame -- because there may be no
      frame set corresponding to that page."
   - ://

There are also no links TO your site, which would help in regularly
crawling your site. Here's what Google says about getting listed in "
How Do I Get My Site Listed on Google?"

     "The best way to ensure Google finds your site is for
      your page to be linked from lots of pages on other sites.
      Google's robots jump from page to page on the Web via
      hyperlinks, so the more sites that link to you, the more
      likely it is that we'll find you quickly."
   - ://


Your site is in Google's index, but with no links to your site, no
real content to index, and using frames, the chances of a visitor
finding your site using Google's search engine are remote.

Google offers many suggestions and recommendations on how to get your
site indexed and what is needed to help with decent placement.

I am including those links from Google's site to help you with your
site's listing. This information will help you understand Google's
goals and responsibility to the web searcher (and not the webmaster or
site owner).

It is incumbent upon you, the webmaster or the website owner, to
ensure your site meets these basics if you want your site listed.
Webmasters who do follow the guidelines and avoid Google's "Thou shalt
nots" usually have no problem getting listed and showing up under the
search terms they desire.

   * Google Today (absolutely the best information you
     can read about the "how and why" of Google's results
     - ://

   * How Do I Get My Site Listed on Google?
     - ://

   * My Web Pages Are Not Currently Listed (a good 'primer'
     on how and why Google works so well)
     - ://

   * PageRank Information (covers both Google's PageRank and
     - ://

   * Webmaster Guidelines (contains both the dos and don'ts)
     - ://

   * Google Facts & Fiction (can  you buy your way to a
     high ranking in Google?)
     - ://

   * Search Engine Optimizers (some good advice on what to look
     for if you're going to hire a Search Engine Optimizer)
     - ://

   * Frequently Asked Questions (pretty much what it says, but
     definitely worth wading through)
     - ://

   * Remove Content from Google's Index (just in case you feel
     a burning need to start all over again)
     - ://

Search terms ~

I used bookmarked material and resources to answer this question,
including Google's links.

Best of luck to you,

Google Answer Researcher

Request for Answer Clarification by sturdy-ga on 10 Aug 2004 21:54 PDT
Does putting a description of the website in each of the home page
frames make it easier to get listed on Google?
Also, my keywords don't seem to have an effect on search placement.
I've added keywords and description meta tags in all frames which
appear on my home page.

Clarification of Answer by serenata-ga on 10 Aug 2004 22:47 PDT
The keyword metatags are pretty much ignored by all search engines, so
they won't help, and could possibly hurt if it appears as if you are
'stuffing' your pages with keywords which don't appear on those pages.

The description tag is sometimes picked up by directories or web
crawlers or spiders for some search engines and made a part of the
description of a page ... although the major search engines, such as
Google, Yahoo and others, rarely return the description tag, but
rather a snippet of content from where a searcher's search terms
appear on a page.

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