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Arginine mimetic in ARPF (alanine-arginine-proline-phenylalanine)
Category: Science > Chemistry Asked by: minr-ga List Price: $15.00 |
Posted:
03 Aug 2004 19:46 PDT
Expires: 16 Aug 2004 05:29 PDT Question ID: 383210 |
Hi What modification can I make in arginine and how to make peptidomimetic in the above ARPF sequence? |
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Re: Arginine mimetic in ARPF (alanine-arginine-proline-phenylalanine)
From: purkinje-ga on 04 Aug 2004 05:50 PDT |
I think you'll have to provide a little more info than you have in order to answer this question. You could make any modification to the arginine R group so long as it didn't mess up the amino acid backbone, and the molecule would still be peptidomimetic, because it would still be a peptide. Are you looking for a specific receptor/cell signaling pathway/etc. that it could still mimic? |
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Re: Arginine mimetic in ARPF (alanine-arginine-proline-phenylalanine)
From: dr_bob-ga on 05 Aug 2004 09:47 PDT |
So you have two questions here. The first one is ambiguous. How do you want to modify arginine? Do you want an isostere of arginine? eg, something not so polar and basic, but will still recognize some arginine complimentarity, or, are you asking something more nebulous, like can you make a prodrug, or what are all the modifications to arginine to fit in your unknown binding pocket? The next question, you won't get an answer for 15 bucks that is even worth 15 cents. At the least, you would need to try a ligand based approach, that is, model your peptide in a water box to guess what the secondary structure is before attempting some type of peptidomimetic. Better yet, do a homology search and see if you can find this motif in other proteins or ligands(that is if you're trying some Beta Turn mimetic). Better even still, if you have binding site structure from NMR, or crystallograpy then you've got something to go on. Then figure out what to build. Chugs, Bob |
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Re: Arginine mimetic in ARPF (alanine-arginine-proline-phenylalanine)
From: minr-ga on 08 Aug 2004 13:18 PDT |
ARPF is a sequence at the N terminus of an endogenous peptide inhibitor to IAP. What substitution on side chain of Arginine will make it less basic and more hydrophobic? |
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Re: Arginine mimetic in ARPF (alanine-arginine-proline-phenylalanine)
From: purkinje-ga on 09 Aug 2004 08:26 PDT |
Any of these would make the appropriate substitute: VAILMWYF |
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Re: Arginine mimetic in ARPF (alanine-arginine-proline-phenylalanine)
From: purkinje-ga on 09 Aug 2004 08:28 PDT |
Or do you mean keeping arginine intact and adding on moieties to that? Also, do you want to keep intact its signaling ability? |
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Re: Arginine mimetic in ARPF (alanine-arginine-proline-phenylalanine)
From: dr_bob-ga on 10 Aug 2004 16:12 PDT |
Try a google search "Arginine isostere" There are probably hundreds. Acetylate it would be the easiest. But you still gotta fill up a pocket and have it do its job. Without something to work from, everything said is virtually of no value. Go to the library, look on pubmed. Otherwise make a library of peptides with substitutions and see what you get. Maybe you find out you don't need arginine. If you want someone to design you an isostere, it's not going to happen for 15 bucks, let alone teach you medicinal chemistry. IAP=integrin associated protein? No crystal structure. Is there a sequence? Homologus to what other protein? I don't think theres a google genius with that set of skills, and this kind of work, I don't do for free. Maybe someone else will get you a simplistic answer to get you going. Just be forewarned, any answer you get to this question without doing your own leg work is going to be a huge waste of time in my opinion, because you don't have any structure information to go on. my best guesses: 4 amino phenylalanine, 4-cyano phenylalanine, phenylalanine-4-carboxamidine, 4 guanidino-phenylalanine, Lysine. have fun! |
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Re: Arginine mimetic in ARPF (alanine-arginine-proline-phenylalanine)
From: minr-ga on 11 Aug 2004 09:40 PDT |
For those who do not know IAP is Inhibitor of apoptosis protein that targets caspase. |
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