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Comparing eBay sellers photos - One stands out from the pack - How is it done?
Category: Computers > Graphics Asked by: ladida68-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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05 Aug 2004 15:31 PDT
Expires: 11 Aug 2004 19:28 PDT Question ID: 384027 |
I have been researching a few sellers that sell Thai silver beads and such. One seller stands out as far as sales and profits and is the clear leader although the items for sale are for the most part the same. I'm guessing this seller is making more because he/she/they have a nicer over-all presentation. My question here is about the process used to get the photos to end up like they do. First is a link to the seller in question and the 2nd and 3rd links are eBay stores of competitors to give a comparison. http://stores.ebay.com/shiana-com http://stores.ebay.com/Twinklehut http://stores.ebay.com/HIZE-Silver All 3 sellers take nice pictures but Shiana has consistent beauty, uses the effects of field of focus (is that the right term?), the brighter, shiny parts are toned down while the photo is very bright. The texture of the silver comes though to give it a rich, tribal, handmade look. And the background is white and clean instead of grey or bluish like some of the others. While I myself would rather buy from someone who had basic pictures so I knew what I was really getting, people must like the more "dreamy" type of photos Shiana uses. My question is basically how it's done. How much is the photographer, equipment, photo editor, etc.? I am assuming it starts from a nice, well lit photo and the rest of the work is in the editing. If so, what techniques is Shiana using? Is the background just cut out and a fake shadow put in? How can you tone down the shininess while keeping the darker areas lit enough to still look fresh? I have a Sony digital camcorder with 1mb photos that takes nice close-ups and Photoshop 7 but am not too savvy at the editing yet. I know I haven't worded this question very well and maybe I should have waited until I did but I just had to ask. Thanks for any help. ladida68 |
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Re: Comparing eBay sellers photos - One stands out from the pack - How is it done?
From: kriswrite-ga on 05 Aug 2004 15:36 PDT |
It looks to me like the seller (or whoever takes the photo) is using a hot light or other photography lamp. An at-home set up would be: Place a large piece of white paper on a table, so that it covers the top of the table and goes up a wall (in an "L" shape). Make sure you have good overall lighting; if you don't have a lot of equipment, set up outside on an overcast day, or in some morning open shade (shade from a large tree or a house, for example.) Add one hot lamp (you can buy one new for under $100 at a photography supply store), and place it in front of the item, and over to one side. Viola! Pretty shadows. Kriswrite |
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Re: Comparing eBay sellers photos - One stands out from the pack - How is it done?
From: theoldwiz-ga on 05 Aug 2004 15:56 PDT |
I am not an expert on photography, but I am willing to share my views to try to answer your questions. On the first site: Much of it probably IS the photographer and/or the graphics editor. The position of the lighting seems to come from the rear of the items, so you don't get the glare of the item and the shadows are in the forground. Also, they are probably shot on a colored background, and then that color (and texture) is deleted from within a graphics program. This gives a clean white background unlike shooting with a white background because of a background texture. Also, and very important, is that the photographer probably set the "white balance" either before shooting, or within the graphics program after the shot. From my quick glances, I didn't notice anything special about field of focus as there is no background in the photographs. The pictures are in focus, which helps make them look clear. Usually, field of focus would involve some areas in focus, and some areas out of focus. This would make the areas in-focus stand out more. The same can be done by using brightness and contrast - though it may be easier to do this after the picture has be taken using a graphics editting package. Keep in mind that my answer is not a FACTUAL answer, as I have never spoken with the person/people who took the photgraphs. My answer is my OPINION of how the shots were completed. I may be wrong, or I may be right - maybe some expert photographer can either support my theory, or show me where I went wrong. Have a good day! |
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Re: Comparing eBay sellers photos - One stands out from the pack - How is it done?
From: ladida68-ga on 06 Aug 2004 17:37 PDT |
Thank you both for your time and advice. First question. Would one lamp be enough? The last batch of photos I took was outside on a partly sunny day in the shade of a tree but there just wasn't enough light. I started looking around at hot lights and can just imagine and there are some nice setups to be had for the money. I have to think about how much is enough. How about bottom lighting to get rid of the shadows? I ran into problems with my shadows when I tried to get rid of the background as it blurred into the product so I have a little grudge against them at the moment. If I used a color background would they be easier to eliminate? Good observation about the light coming from the back. I would have never even thought about that. Some of the photos do not have any effects with the field of focus but many do. Some are very subtle ones and others are drastic to the point of being too much. And some are blurry when they are the same distance from the lens so I'm assuming a lot of it is in the editing. I saw a bead book recently that used it really well to bring your attention to a certain part of the photo. As for the white balance, I've never had any luck changing the settings. I just leave it on auto settings and sometime turn up the exposure when it's dark. One more question. I'll be doing all the photos in Thailand and the voltage is 220 I believe. Are there any lighting solutions that I can use here and there? My cameras and laptops don't have a problem so I am wondering if I can get away without using voltage converters as I've had problems with them in the past. Bringing this up has brought so many questions that I have about Photoshop. I think I'm may become addicted to Google Answers. Thanks again, ladida68 |
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Re: Comparing eBay sellers photos - One stands out from the pack - How is it done?
From: kriswrite-ga on 07 Aug 2004 13:40 PDT |
Be sure to use open shade. The open shade of a building is more reliable, since the light won't be speckled from leaves. In addition, the time of day plays a factor. Early morning is best for natural light. Under these circumstances, one hot lamp is enough. I've photographed many small objects with this setup, which were later used in magazines and books. (If you add more lamps, you'll probably have more trouble getting shadows. One lamp would have to be beneath or above the object.) If you eliminate shadows, the object will look flat. It's better just to use a plain colored background (in the form of paper, as described above). Field of focus is not an editing effect; it's something you create with the camera itself. If you have a modern camera, you can achieve this effect automatically with the portrait setting. You can also achieve this manually. Here's a site with a tutorial, "Blurring a Background in a Portrait," dpchallenge: http://www.dpchallenge.com/tutorial.php?TUTORIAL_ID=16 Hope this helps, Kriswrite |
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Re: Comparing eBay sellers photos - One stands out from the pack - How is it done?
From: ladida68-ga on 10 Aug 2004 17:03 PDT |
Once again kriswrite, thanks for your tips. I'm on my way to Thailand and will play around with the light there. After asking this question I've found a lot of good info on the Net and hope to make good use of it. Oh, I did try the portrait setting on my camera before but it made peoples' skin look rubbery or painted. I read that stretching pantyhose over the lens will do nicely but have yet to try it. ladida68 |
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