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Subject: Direcway wireless network question - I am stumped
Category: Computers > Wireless and Mobile
Asked by: lemonskd-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 07 Aug 2004 17:35 PDT
Expires: 29 Aug 2004 17:34 PDT
Question ID: 384852
Have DW6000 connected by NIC to XP based Sony computer.  I have a
NetGear Wireless Firewall Router + a crossover cable + Netgear
wireless card for notebook.   How do I get this to work?  Do I need to
install an additonal NIC?   Do I need additional equipment?

Clarification of Question by lemonskd-ga on 15 Aug 2004 16:55 PDT
This is what I now have, but still cannot get it to work:
NetGear 5-Port Fast Ethernet Switch (FS605)
NetGear 108 MPS Wireless Firewall Router (WGT624)
NetGear 108 MPS Wireless PC Card (WG511T)

I connected (1) DW6000 to WAN on Firewall Router 
            (2) Firewall Router to Ethernet Switch
            (3) Ethernet Switch to Sony NIC 
All cables normal CAT-5.

I configured Firewall Router to use Sony MAC/Physical Address with:
a. IP Address  192.168.0.2
b. Mask        255.255.255.0
c. IP Gateway  192.168.0.1
d. DNS         152.164.14.14 & .15
e. MAC         00-E0-18-47-31-F3 (same as Sony)

The DW6000 IPCONFIG reads:
Physical Address: 00-E0-18-47-31-F3
DHCP Enabled:     Yes (I did IPCONFIG/RELEASE the IPCONFIG/RENEW in last try)
IP Address:       192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask:      255.255.255.0
Default Gateway:  192.168.0.1
DHCP Server:      192.168.0.1
DNS Servers:      66.82.4.8 

Firewall router will not connect to internet on TEST of settings.
Explorer will not connect to DW6000.

What am I doing wrong?  Do I have the right equipment now?

Request for Question Clarification by joey-ga on 15 Aug 2004 17:48 PDT
Why are you using a crossover cable?  Have you tried a standard
non-crossover Ethernet cable?

Crossover cables are generally used for specialized needs, not for
simple connections of a router to a wall/modem/etc.

Clarification of Question by lemonskd-ga on 16 Aug 2004 22:11 PDT
Joey -  I am not using the cross-over cable.  See my previous
clarification, line 9, only using normal CAT-5.  I may use the
cross-over cable as a noose.

Crythias - the following is what the router status shows, it still
does not connect to internet even though it says it detects the
internet connection.

One question I have not resolved in my own mind is that to communicate
with the firewall router, you log in with 192.168.0.1.  That is the
same way that you log into the DW6000 - 192.168.0.1.  Could this be
why it won't work?  I would think that I would not be able to check
the status of the DW6000 with the login address because it would open
up the firewall router first?  Anyway to resolve this? (if it needs
resolving) Do you see anything in the Router Status that helps?

Here is what the status shows:

Router Status
 
Account Name	Lemons
Hardware Version	V3
Firmware Version 	Version 4.0.4 Feb 13 2004
 
Internet Port 

MAC Address 	00:09:5B:C9:3D:53
IP Address 	192.168.0.3
DHCP 	DHCPClient
IP Subnet Mask 	255.255.255.0
Domain Name Server 	66.82.4.8
 
LAN Port

MAC Address 	00:09:5B:C9:3D:52
IP Address 	192.168.0.1
DHCP 	ON
IP Subnet Mask 	255.255.255.0
 
Wireless Port 

Name (SSID)	NETGEAR
Region	United States
Channel	11
Mode	g and b
Wireless AP	ON
Broadcast Name	ON
 
The DW6000 is working fine, I have to hook it back up directly to the
Sony NIC to clarify this.  When I hook it back up the Firewall Router,
it just won't communicate.

Clarification of Question by lemonskd-ga on 29 Aug 2004 12:17 PDT
I stepped away for a few days to clear my mind.  I changed the LAN as
you suggested.  I then lost all ability to communicate with the
NetGear router. Tried several times.  Had to reset router.  Any
suggestions? What about the DMZ setting, RIP settings, etc.?   I am
about to give up.

Clarification of Question by lemonskd-ga on 29 Aug 2004 16:24 PDT
YES!  I still could not ping the router until I re-started WinXP,
don't know why that would matter, but it did.   I configured the NIC
to automatic w/ an alternative setting IP setting of 192.168.1.103,
subnet mask 255.255.255.0, and Gateway of 192.168.1.1.   The reason I
did that is that previously the Direcway would not recognize the
computer.  I don't know if that is correct reasoning or setting, but
it works.

Laptop is receiving & surfing.  Crythias -Thank you for sticking with
me on this! I was going to put everything on E-bay if it didn't work
today. I am a happy camper.
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Subject: Re: Direcway wireless network question - I am stumped
From: crythias-ga on 08 Aug 2004 10:26 PDT
 
It should be: DW6000 to WAN port of Netgear WFR (normal cat5 cable).
Sony NIC to Firewall switch (normal cat5 cable). Wireless
card/Wireless Firewall router.

The only caveat may be that if your DW6000 insists on attaching ONLY
to your Sony, you'll want to get the MAC address of the Sony and tell
the Netgear to use that MAC address externally (when communicating to
the DW6000). Probably not, but just letting you know in case you're
stuck.

Also, it's important to know if the DW6000 needs to authenticate PPOE
or such like DSL or is "always connected" like cable.

Both Sony and Notebook should accept dynamic IP from router. If
necessary, your router's external (WAN) IP should either be dynamic
(obtain IP address automatically) or whatever was set on your Sony.
Subject: Re: Direcway wireless network question - I am stumped
From: crythias-ga on 15 Aug 2004 17:36 PDT
 
You're almost there. 
Check out http://dssweb01.mydirecway.com/mydw/common/2way/dw6-network.jsp
for more information. It appears that your modem is its own router
anyway. This doesn't prevent you from functioning.
from what I can tell from that link, the firewall is not necessary.
Still, to use the firewall, the WAN port should receive
(DHCP/Automatic IP address).

This means remove the 192.168.0.2 IP address of the WAN port. In fact,
factory configuration of the Netgear router probably would have been
adequate for the whole thing.

Here's something else: Having the WAN port have a gateway that is not
on the Internet won't help. You should automatically detect *ALL*
settings of the WAN port.

WAN: DHCP
LAN settings of firewall: (factory settings, factory DHCP). Most
likely, it's something like:
LAN IP: 192.168.1.1 
LAN DHCP: 192.168.1.100-192.168.1.150
A PC should receive DHCP IP 192.168.1.100 (or 101, 102, 103...)
Gateway IP: 192.168.1.1
DNS: (PROBABLY) 192.168.1.1

I don't recommend you change anything that's not factory (except
config password on firewall).

You didn't even need to set MAC address for firewall. 

Since the link above doesn't tell ANYTHING about the network besides
hardware configuration, I have to assume that, if you plugged your
DW6000 into a hub, and have your PC's on DHCP, you'd have Internet
without problems. If that's the case, then a factory configured router
would *probably* plug and go without changes. I apologize for not
looking this information up previously. I completely overlooked the
subject of your question.
Subject: Re: Direcway wireless network question - I am stumped
From: crythias-ga on 17 Aug 2004 08:46 PDT
 
Internet port should not have an IP address. However, it says that the
Internet port is DHCPClient...

You need to make your LAN be on a different subnet in order for the
router to ... route. (Change any reference on the Netgear Router for
LAN to be 192.168.1.1, with dhcp to be 192.168.1.(range))
Subject: Re: Direcway wireless network question - I am stumped
From: crythias-ga on 29 Aug 2004 12:29 PDT
 
If you've lost connection with the router, that's because your
computers are looking for it on the wrong place (computers are
probably still 192.168.0.###.
If you've changed the router to be 192.168.1.1, set the IP address of
your PC to be 192.168.1.2, with gateway 192.168.1.1

You should be able to ping 192.168.1.1 and http://192.168.1.1

Make sure that the Netgear's DHCP range/scope is 192.168.1.x (and active!) as well.
Subject: Re: Direcway wireless network question - I am stumped
From: crythias-ga on 29 Aug 2004 17:11 PDT
 
Thank you, lemonskd, for sticking with *me* through this as well. This
is stuff with which I am *very* familiar (almost daily), and so I'm
just happy that you got it working OK.

1) I am not a Google Answers researcher, so I can't/won't collect on
an "Answer", cancel the question if you feel it's been answered.
2) It's important that you remember to make your PC's automatic
receive IP address if you decide to connect the DW6000 directly to a
PC again. Not likely, I know, but if your router "dies", you're going
to be hard pressed to figure out why you can't connect to the Internet
at all ...

I may not always be commenting at Google Answers, but feel free to
look me up in a search engine.

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